19880423 Bhagavad-gītā 10.1

Lecture Code: 19880423

 

Scripture: Bhagavad Gita

Verse: 10.1

Date: Apr 23, 1988

Place: Sweden, Europe

 

Transcribed By: Bhagyavati Subhadra Devi Dasi

Transcribed On: 31 May, 2018

 

STATUS: COMPLETE

 

 

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śrī-bhagavān uvāca

bhūya eva mahā-bāho

śṛṇu me paramaṁ vacaḥ

yat te ’haṁ prīyamāṇāya

vakṣyāmi hita-kāmyayā

 

TRANSLATION:

 

The Supreme Personality of Godhead said: Listen again, O mighty-armed Arjuna. Because you are My dear friend, for your benefit I shall speak to you further, giving knowledge that is better than what I have already explained.

 

His Holiness Jayapataka Swami:

 

mūkaṁ karoti vācālaṁ

paṅguṁ laṅghayate girim

yat-kṛpā tam ahaṁ vande

śrī-guruṁ dīna-tāraṇam

 

paramananda-madhavam

sri-caitanyam isvaram

 

PURPORT:

 

The word bhagavān is explained thus by Parāśara Muni: one who is full in six opulences, who has full strength, full fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation, is Bhagavān, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead. While Kṛṣṇa was present on this earth, He displayed all six opulences. Therefore great sages like Parāśara Muni have all accepted Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Now Kṛṣṇa is instructing Arjuna in more confidential knowledge of His opulences and His work. Previously, beginning with the Seventh Chapter, the Lord has already explained His different energies and how they are acting. Now in this chapter He explains His specific opulences to Arjuna. In the previous chapter He has clearly explained His different energies to establish devotion in firm conviction. Again in this chapter He tells Arjuna about His manifestations and various opulences.

 

The more one hears about the Supreme God, the more one becomes fixed in devotional service. One should always hear about the Lord in the association of devotees; that will enhance one’s devotional service. Discourses in the society of devotees can take place only among those who are really anxious to be in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Others cannot take part in such discourses. The Lord clearly tells Arjuna that because Arjuna is very dear to Him, for his benefit such discourses are taking place.

 

Thus end the Bhaktivedanta Swami purport to chapter 10, verse 1 of the Bhagavad Gita As It Is in the matter of The Opulence of the Absolute.

 

His Holiness Jayapataka Swami:

So in the ninth chapter Kṛṣṇa has told Arjuna to engage his mind always thinking of Him, becoming the Lord’s devotee, offering obeisances to Him and worshiping Him. In this way by being completely absorbed in Kṛṣṇa one can go back to Kṛṣṇa. Now in the tenth chapter what to think about? Some of the qualities of the Supreme Lord. Kṛṣṇa says think of me, Kṛṣṇa is having so many qualities. He’s having form, name, pastimes, qualities, so these are all non different from the Lord. If one is thinking of the pastimes of the Lord that is not different from meditating on the form of the Lord or on the holy name of the Lord or the qualities of the Lord etc. So Kṛṣṇa is filled with all opulences, filled with all glories therefore the name Bhagavan or one who is complete in six opulences, all opulences, is appropriate. This morning we read how Kapila muni was loved by his mother Devahuti. This is nothing unusual, actually mothers love their son their children but why was this particular motherly affection is being so glorified was explained because the son happened to be the incarnation of Kṛṣṇa the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So even though what appeared to be ordinary motherly affection was in fact a perfection of life because somehow or other her mind, her entire being was absorbed in serving remembering the Lord. So this tenth chapter is higher subject matter because now it starts to give actual nomenclature, details about the Supreme Personality of Godhead. There are many religions in the world or groups that believe in the Supreme Lord, in this, in God however the nature of God, what does He do? What does He look like? These are kept a mystery. If you ask for the answer what does God look like? Where do we come from? They said these are all mysteries. So this is the wonderful thing about the Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatam that any mysteries are very openly and very clearly revealed and discussed. So in this way the more one knows about Kṛṣṇa the more that one can be absorbed in Kṛṣṇa so therefore this is the higher instruction.

 

Now one should hear about Kṛṣṇa in the association of devotees. There’s a famous story called Ramanuja was listening to one sanskrit pandit glorifying, reading some slokas. So one sloka was glorifying Narayana, but when this mayavadi Shankaracharya sanyasi read out the sloka, the sloka actually says that the Lord’s face is beautiful like the blooming lotus in the sunshine. That somehow by sanskrit grammar you can combine the words in different ways and divide then you can get different meanings. So they split the words up in a different way. Like sometime you see in sanskrit there’s one long word. Here’s a very common word mahashraya it means maha rishi but then if you wanted to do something might be, it’s not, doesn’t workout but ma, if it was long a, it say maa means mother harsha means laughter, you could say the mother was laughing if, you know you could do like sanskrit you can sometime get, but this very common word so you take the direct meaning. So the very direct meaning was that the sun rises and shines in the lotus and they open and the blooming red lotus in the sunshine something like that. So instead the sanskrit pandit he divide up the words in totally unusual way and he said that yes in here it says that the face of Narayana is pink just like the ass of a monkey. And just like this goes on like and so Ramanuja hears that, he starts crying. The pandi sees that the students cause why you are crying? So he says you call Narayana’s beautiful face is like the face, like the red of the rare end of the, of a monkey? So what this is the sanskrit what can I do? This what is says. You think it has any other meaning? So then Ramanuja explained the proper way of dividing the sanskrit. Said this means that He has the face, like a beautiful blooming lotus and the sun and then all the other pandits that were there, the students they could figure that’s the very clear meaning. So then the that sanskrit pandit he became, defeated by his own pupil. That was a big thing in those days. But this was the way that by hearing about the glories of the Lord in the non devotees. The same glory they’d sit around and gave it a totally different meaning that was, and you won’t get any devotion by hearing that pandit’s explanation even though he‘s reading the glories of Narayana. Comparing Narayana with monkey tails and this and that is completely like discourage someone and is not at all the accurate translation. So in the society in association of non devotees there it’s very difficult to discuss the glories of Kṛṣṇa.

 

Devananda pandit was a very famous professional Bhagavatam reader. He regularly gave lectures on the Bhagavatam in ah, Kuliagram. Kuliagram is the present day city of Navadvipa, that location. Before Navadvipa is where Mayapur is and across the river was known as Kuliagram. So Devananda pandit would set up his Bhagavatam toll and he would be giving lecture on Bhagavatam. One day Srivas pandit he was on the other side of the river, he just stop and listen for sometime at Devananda pandit’s Bhagavatam class. So then while he was giving the description of Kṛṣṇa Srivas was remembering some memories, pastimes and Lord Chaitanya’s explanation of them and he became very ecstatic and start to actually tears come from in his eyes. Devananda pandit he saw Srivas Thakur in the back, or his the group there you know the tears are coming and he stopped his class and say why you are crying? The disturbance it wasn’t any again noise he just. He just started insulting him in different ways and then told his students to throw him out. So this students physically picked him up took him and throw him in the street. So later Srivas when he went back to Nabadwip, to Mayapur Navadvipa then Lord Chaitanya ofcourse the word already He got around. He chastised him why you are going and trying to listen to the Bhagavatam? In the association of non devotees. So then never understand the devotees (inaudible 10:45) they just discussing it from the very academic scholastic point of view and I forbid all my followers that they should only hear the classes on Gita, Bhagavat from pure devotees, not from these professional people. But Lord Chaitanya he was very angry at Devananda Pandit, he doesn’t know anything about Bhagavatam or the Gita and He’s passing judgements on Srinivas Acharya, Srivas Thakur offending him like that. So one devotee was relative of Devananda pandit, he tried to preach to Devananda pandit. You don’t know that Lord Chaitanya is actually Kṛṣṇa Himself, it’s predicted. How is it possible Kṛṣṇa doesn’t come in Kaliyuga. Then he showed so many quotes look at this is there. But Devananda pandit wasn’t accepting.

 

So one day Lord Chaitanya went Harinam, he was over another side of the river with His followers and He was just returning from the Harinam and Devananda pandit happened to be walking from the other way. So from a distance Lord Chaitanya started to chastise him. You call yourself a great pandit but you’re simply offending the Vaishnavas, why you offending a pure devotee like Srivas Thakur? You’re simply discussing the Bhagavatam from the point of your own dharma, artha, kama, moksha. You have no understanding of the real purpose of Bhagavatam. Like this He just started blasting and even I mean heavy chastising and Devananda pandit couldn’t stand up to Chaitanya Mahaprabhu he just you know backed off. But somehow the words of Lord Chaitanya very penetrating sometimes even chastisement helps one to become awake and again he remembered the words of the relative and then his relative start preaching to him some more. In this way he can realise he committed an offence so he approached Lord Chaitanya how do I get forgiven for this offence? Lord Chaitanya said you could approach Srivas. So then he approached Srivas Thakur when he went again on that side begged for forgiveness so then he got forgiven. So that is known as aparadh bhanjan kuliagram. It’s very hard to get freed from the offense of commiting, offending a vaishnava. But there part of Nabadwip nine islands, Srivas Pandit’s offense committed by Devananda pandit, Devananda pandit was freed from that. So now it’s known as aparadh bhanjan kuliagram. The ravage of kulia where one devotee got freed from the great mad elephant offence, of offending a vaishnava. Later on Devananda pandit became proper Bhagavatam preacher. He preached from the Bhagavatam on the basis of pure bhakti.

 

sa vai puṁsāṁ paro dharmo

 yato bhaktir adhokṣaje

ahaituky apratihatā

 yayātmā suprasīdati

 

That devotional service should be unmotivated, unbroken then it’s completely satisfying to the self. Before Devananda pandit would speak from the Bhagavatam but simply regarding increasing one’s wealth or one’s religious pious activity or for going to heavenly planets or for achieving liberation. Never about the real goal of reading the Bhagavad Gita and the Srimad Bhagavatam to achieve pure devotional service to Kṛṣṇa.

 

So Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is special because in the Kṛṣṇa conscious movement we hear so much about The Supreme Personality of Godhead. Knowing factually about the Lord is a greatest boon. Of course sometimes there’s logicians they say well where’s the proof of God. So sometime people will say whether God exist? because the holy scripture say so. And the holy scriptures never tell the truth, never lie because they’re written by God. So people will criticise that, that’s the circular argument. So the basis for the scriptures is that come from God. So God Himself is suppose to be the source of His own existence. So they, they criticise this, they say well this, this is like someone saying I’m not a lier, if you don’t believe me then ask me I’ll tell you so. They try to use this type of logic to say that well see! But actually because Kṛṣṇa is Bhagavan He’s beyond the material perception of even a greatest researchers. So there’s a paradox that nobody can tell anyone about Kṛṣṇa but Kṛṣṇa Himself or those who He reveals Himself to. So of course there are  many great souls what are the scriptures the scriptures of course are vedas contain many of these histories just like Narada muni he personally saw Kṛṣṇa in his heart. Of course Kṛṣṇa was present on the planet Kurukshetra, vrindavan they’re there, pastime places are there, historical, these paintings, for thousands and thousands of years this type of paintings have been laid in India, everyone knows about Kṛṣṇa.

 

So then if you say Kṛṣṇa is God, He said it or how do you know that Kṛṣṇa is God? Wow so the vedas say. All of the great rishis and munis and great sages that ture they say. He says it Himself. Like this if the finally so right when in the Bhagavad Gita in the eleventh chapter when Arjuna say, well You say You’re Supreme Personality of Godhead but if You could just show Your universal form then that would prove it. So of course then Kṛṣṇa displayed His universal form. Still there’s no doubt that there may be some in spite of even seeing the universal form they all still remain sceptics. Kṛṣṇa showed an other type of universal form to Duryodhana when Duryodhana tried to capture Him breaking all norms of diplomatic immunity. Even 5000 years ago there was diplomatic immunity a messenger of the king is not to be harmed, the messenger. Still Duryodhana said capture Kṛṣṇa and all the many councillors said this is not proper, He’s come as an ambassador, He’s under diplomatic protection. Duryodhana said now we got Him all alone to hell with this diplomatic immunity. When will get a chance like this He’s always protected by His vast armies. Now we have Him single Kṛṣṇa, now we can get Him, finish off this obstacle on our path. So the demons. So they went to capture Kṛṣṇa of course He just manifested some universal form, laughed at Him, how foolish Duryodhana. And in spite of all that Duryodhana doesn't think Him. So those who are the non devotees they want to be totally convinced that there is no God. So because they want that type of intelligence Kṛṣṇa gives Him that intelligence. Of course the devotees they want to know Kṛṣṇa, they want to serve Kṛṣṇa, they want to develop more and more their consciousness of Kṛṣṇa so they associate with each other, Krishan given them the intelligence

 

teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ

bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam

dadāmi buddhi-yogaṁ taṁ

yena mām upayānti te

 

He gives the intelligence where by they can come to Him. So this is why it’s so important Prabhupada gave us the International Society for Kṛṣṇa Consciousness so we could associate with devotees. And of course this is a Kṛṣṇa Consciousness movement is a missionary movement that we are trying to give the opportunity to so many fallen souls to awaken to their own eternal nature, to be freed from the suffering of birth, death, old age, disease into for actually realize the relationship with Kṛṣṇa. And it’s not simple a theory, Bhaktivedanta, this knowledge is there was a wonderful thing Lord Chaitanya he gave factual knowledge of Kṛṣṇa. He also gave the practical process of engaging in devotional service so one can relish the devotional service and ultimately one is able to realize Kṛṣṇa by the mercy of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. So even a person is a neophyte, a very new in the spiritual path they’re chanting

 

Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

 

Hearing the Bhagavad Gita, hearing the Srimad Bhagavatam in the association of devotees one’s dormant consciousness awakens and one can feel the change, can feel some spiritual bliss, can feel some spiritual enthusiasm just like when Narada muni realize Kṛṣṇa then the some logician would came up and said how do you know who’s Kṛṣṇa? This the, I mean it didn't, for someone who realizes God that realization is complete. Complete knowledge, complete satisfaction, complete everything. Therefore it goes beyond the logic, kind of like if you go up to someone who just had a big meal and try to convince them how actuall they didn’t eat, they’re still hungry. You’d have to at least convince them for three four hours before they get hungry again you see next ten fifteen minutes after completely. So this is not simply in a mental platform, it’s practical. Therefore people all over the worlds take to Kṛṣṇa Consciousness to explain in India how people are taking to Kṛṣṇa Consciousness because it actually provides real effect. Satisfying to the mind, gives the knowledge this is a very nice, simple way of life there, but the actual thing is one achieves God realization in a very systematic way beginning from hearing. So Kṛṣṇa is telling Arjuna, Arjuna is dear to Kṛṣṇa.

 

His Holiness Jayapataka Swami:

(aside:) So since His Holiness Smita Kṛṣṇa Maharaj is here I’d also (inaudible 21:08) from his words, like to say anything in this occasion?

 

His Holiness Smita Kṛṣṇa Swami:

Ya this morning from the Bhagavatam we’re reading how has the importance of chanting and hearing that it, that in itself is a like there some devotional process (inaudible 21:30) Chaitanya Mahaprabhu when he spoke with Ramananda Roy. Ramananda Roy he was giving all kind of explanation as to the professional, what’s the profession was of spiritual life. So then Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was continuously reacting or He could, He was reacting in the beginning when he was giving various suggestions. But when he came to the point of just simply hearing the Bhagavatam or the Kṛṣṇa katha from the self realized souls then Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu approved. These was, these was the professional, that was good, that was good enough because in that, in that there was no need for artificially renouncing or giving up their particular position one was in. Rather whatever position one are, someone is in one can just simply hear about Kṛṣṇa, chant about Kṛṣṇa and thus make progress. So whether Brahmachari, Grihastha, Vanaprastha, Sanyasa or Shudra, Vaishya, Kshatriya, Brahmin just simply engage in hearing the holy name, hearing the Kṛṣṇa katha from the self realized souls, from the pure devotees. Then perfection will be there that would come. But it should not be heard from the, from the not pure devotees. That’s we heard about Devananda pandit was reading about Bhagavatam but was only interested as mentioned here about dharma, artha, kama, moksha was not actually a pure devotee so then that was not good. Or when it’s actually heard form the proper source then it’s very potent and then it makes a us, wherever we are we progress on our spiritual life, and that would guarantee our spiritual progress and perfection. So therefore it’s very nice to have Jayapataka Swami here to hear (inaudible 23:34) about devotional service of purification. Thank you.

 

His Holiness Jayapataka Swami:

(aside:) Srila Prabhupada ki!

Jai!

Any questions?

 

(devotee:) Question (inaudible 23:48)

 

His Holiness Jayapataka Swami:

Devotees are by nature compassionate somebody apologizes you see devotees are very unanimous even greater devotees they don’t take offence although offence may have been made. So for those who are feeling more angry that someone committed offence even if they apologize they don’t like to forgive, forgive. Prabhupada gave several lectures on forgiveness this is a very important aspect of Vaishnav culture. And if you just remember that how we act with others would reflect in a certain way how we want Kṛṣṇa to reciprocate with us. That certainly we make so many offences to Kṛṣṇa and we’re aspiring that Krishan will forgive us and take us back to the spiritual world. So then if somebody makes an offence they only, the general reason not to forgive a person would be if someone such a great sear that when they actually want to be forgiven. Some great sear they would give some like special benediction like you go to Vrindavan and become twin Arjuna trees and then you’d be delivered by Kṛṣṇa you know so many millions of years you know so many years from now. But since we generally lack these things (laughing) vision like Narada muni and other great munis and rishis had written to forgive people. Lord Chaitanya said we should be more tolerant that a tree. But the devotees like, just like the first canto Bhagavatam the bull and the cow, dharma and mother earth. When they were asked that who was beating them? Even though the king caught kali red handed they wouldn’t say that he’s the one. They’re saying we are suffering because of laws of karma, because of this because of our fate so many different, they give every other, they took all the, they took all themselves to be the primeval case that I’m suffering because of things that I’ve done. Different ways they kind of didn’t directly come to the point cause in the topic came why they're, why they're sad, why they’re suffering actually. They could have said it was because he’s leaving but there is suffering they’re feeling this because Kṛṣṇa left. Mother earth was feeling the greatest pain not from the beating of kali but because Kṛṣṇa had left her in seperation. So when our pain of separation for Kṛṣṇa will be so overpowering that then a little in frechman some are ego and sense gratification or false ego whatever will become so insignificant. You see that, that time will be very natural to not take any offence. So this is part of our developing Kṛṣṇa Consciousness. If we think that Kṛṣṇa will forgive us, if  we also forgive others when they make a mistake if they’re asking. Sometimes you go to some devotee committed offences, you please forgive him, oh no I did not offence I don’t. But Kṛṣṇa may have thought that there was an offence, that’s an other trouble. He’s not forgiving because he’s not accepting that there was any offence. So then the only technique is somehow get, could dust from that devotee, touch their feet then that neutralizes the effect. There’s long story about the mother Saci, Advaita Goswami.

 

His Holiness Jayapataka Swami:

(aside:) Any other question?

 

(devotee:) Question (inaudible 27:52)

 

His Holiness Jayapataka Swami:

In the lecture we did discussed about we did mention some things about this topic or taha really seems to be angular point (laughing) except the main theme. It’s a very big topic what is an offence? What is a sin? One is spiritual, offence is spiritual. We have struck someone in their spiritual life, if we blaspheme a devotee, if we disrespect a devotee these are offences. We steal from someone, it’s a sin. We steal from a devotee then it’s a sin but because it’s devotee,  that’s Kṛṣṇa’s property is having and also becomes an offence cause you’re taking directly from Kṛṣṇa but these are very complicated issues to what extent is something a sin or an offence. An offence is spiritual, it effects directly our spiritual life. A sin is something which can be cleansed away very easily by Kṛṣṇa’s mercy subdued performing activities and the karmas which would produce reactions. So for the devotees they’re suppose to avoid commiting pious activity and impious activity and they’re suppose to never commit any offences. So to what extent something is an offence or something is a sin now these are very complicated issues. Someone may feel offended or offence wasn’t meant or one someone’s implicat it sin, isn’t an offence. These are all things ultimately Kṛṣṇa is judge. If He feels the devotees were offended then a person’s spiritual life will definitely hamper because of that more than just committing a sin.

 

If someone takes an oath before the Guru, he breaks the vow it’s a Guru-avagya, it’s a offence to the Guru. So many different kinds of offences some are very serious some may be less it’s very difficult to like Lord Chaitanya said you just avoid Vaishnava offence like anything, it’s like a mad elephant. The other kind of offences are like weeds, should also cut them out. Cut out the weeds that weeds are offensive in some ways because they're breaking principles but we put them a different category. Mad elephant offence and then weeds. So they ask very general shorthand questions sometimes you have specific thing in the mind these are very difficult to categorise exactly. Law of karma is very complicate, complicated where it begins where it ends what are the manus written books on it. What reaction you get by doing different things. So wants to see whether it’s a sin for doing certain things what kind of hell one goes to, what kind of suffering one gets. Little bits given in the Bhagavatam fifth canto Manu’s that are lot more. In to this (laughing) Manu Samhita, there’s other puranas that have vivid descriptions (laughing) these are the karmic reactions one get by performing sinful activity.

 

People nowadays not so much interested in all these things. But one has to take responsibility for whatever one does. For the devotee Prabhupada said avoid sin, avoid ious activity, simply engage in devotional service and certainly avoid offences. So all of us where’s the time to be angry on other people we have to get back to Godhead. If someone causes us sufferings sometimes that can help us to be more detached from the material world and more attached to Kṛṣṇa that how we can rely on anyone in this material world except Guru, Kṛṣṇa, pure devotee. Guru Kṛṣṇa but on, rely on some go back home back to Godhead. So sometimes we’ve been put in a very difficult test question an ordinary devotee someone who has got so much faith in the words of the spiritual master, the words of the scriptures desire to serve Kṛṣṇa, they cross over these great obstacles. So they’re taking shelter of the mode of passion or mode of ignorance may be in this anger or desire for some material.

 

[Break]

 

… When he came, sir please come and take your meal, we’ve been waiting, I’m sorry that you are offended, there’s more than this, inconceivable. Because I’m very sad such good qualities even The Supreme Personality of Godhead was so loved to. Because Srivas Thakur had such wonderful qualities, had such implicit faith on Lord Nityananda had such wonderful devotional qualities. And Haridas Thakur has such wonderful qualities, Lord Chaitanya declared that I’ve been purchased by the devotion of haridas Thakur one time he said it to Srivas. So if they want they can sell me in the market. You could do whatever they want, I’m as good as this like I’m sold to them. Their devotion is such a big one. Of course because (laughing) they can tolerate here such a thing they simply want to serve Lord Chaitanya and to satisfy Him. So life, this is our, this is our training school how de we get fixed up, how do we become Kṛṣṇa conscious, how do become more and more attached to Kṛṣṇa, more detached from everything else. So for some it’s by hearing you learn, and for some it’s by experiencing you learn.

 

Whatever it takes all we pray is that whatever happens may it bring me closer to you. Just like mother Qunti. When Kṛṣṇa was leaving Hastinapur she prayed Kṛṣṇa, now we are the rulers of the world, we won everything, we defeated all the enemies, we, we now, the Kurukshetra war is over, Duryodhana is gone with his hundred brothers, everyone 99 brother, they’re all gone. But everything, all our problems have solved but you’re leaving. So better if only way we can have Your association is with problems. Then we rather have problems if we can have Your association. If we’re having victory we lose your association, the matter is too bigger cost.

 

But somehow we have to become trained up that when we are in difficulty like Prabhupada write in the Nectar of Devotion says, if you suddenly like get startled by something or you hit your foot or something happens, if suddenly you say Hare Kṛṣṇa! You just say the name of Kṛṣṇa. Just because some sudden thing, vibe he said just by that it’s a ticket back to Godhead. If we’re able that even in minor major whatever kind of difficulty, it actually take the shelter of Kṛṣṇa. We’re able to completely take the shelter of Kṛṣṇa that now I have no one else to turn to, I have to turn to you. I am turning to everyone everything but You’re the only one I can turn to, give me your shelter. And by His mercy you can very quickly achieve. Just like Narada muni had a nice mother, he’s been taken care of so much, he got bit by a snake so he was honored, he took shelter of Kṛṣṇa, became Narada muni. So we’re in a society of so many loving devotees sometimes things happen that we have to also depend on Kṛṣṇa, depend on association of pure devotees, in this way advance in our Kṛṣṇa Consciousness. How many more years we have to be on this planet? Twenty thirty six or fourty more years maximum, who know? (inaudible 37:21)

 

When Lord Chaitanya was giving out love for Godhead to all of the devotees at the Maha prakash type of arati was being held then He was delivering the different devotees groups giving love for Godhead to everyone. So someone said why don’t You give the mercy to mother Saci? Then Lord Chaitanya said no, I can’t, she cannot receive love of Godhead. All was what? Mother Saci she is the most devoted, she’s day and night, all the time she’s serving You, cooking for You, thinking of You, she absorbed of You constantly in devotional service. How is that she can not get love for Godhead? She’s a Vaishnava aparadhi. What? (inaudible 38:16) Offendable? They couldn’t believe it, mother Saci she can’t get, she committed an offence to the Vaishnava? How is she but so nice to the devotees, she’s so kind that she’s, at the devotees they, they who was there they completely took Him by surprise. And they didn’t even know what to think of it, some of you are fasting, some, if she can’t get love of Godhead then what hope is there for us? You know this, it’s different you know what she’s a living, and you know people did they, devotees gets really upset by this. Everyone love mother Saci and she was, everyone was getting love of Godhead except for the mother of Lord Chaitanya? So then they ask what, what did she do? What was her offence? So Lord Chaitanya said well, when I was young she would send me to get my older brother Viswarupa who would be listening to the Bhagavatam classes of Advaita. And when I go there and, to get Viswarupa then sometime I would sit down listen to the Bhagavatam also. So both of us would be like, she’d become very impatient because astrologer told her that her son would take sanyasa, leave home. So she got frightened that they gonna leave. She started to complain this Advaita is giving all this Bhagavatam classes, keeping our sons away from the house something like that, I don’t know maybe she said some kind of complaint, some criticism of Advaita. All is he’s giving Bhagavatam class, she said you know in her motherly concern for her children, she said some critical remark about Advaita.

 

So Lord Chaitanya when He was in that mood as Kṛṣṇa He new everything past present future. She committed offence because Advaita he was flawlessly preaching from Bhagavatam, there’s no fault on his part that she scolding on him. So then the devotees said what’s the solution? How could she get forgiven for this? Saci has to go and get forgiveness from Advaita. So that devotees say, just you know, we have to do something like that, making plans instead, so finally they could, even Lord Chaitanya they, they made, they all gonna go with mother Saci to Advaita and he’s gonna beg for forgiveness, she’s gonna beg him for forgiveness. So even Lord Chaitanya He said I’ll go on too. That’s the point. Many of the devotees really upset that those, this is very, have a great concern for Mother saci love for Godhead. So then they all go, Advaita is in his house doing his puja something, looks up there Lord Chaitanya, mother Saci all the devotees is, what’s going on? Why is that everybody come here? He was like you know surprised you know. Then someone explains that you, Lord Chaitanya said mother Saci can’t get love for Godhead because she offended you. Explained what happened and so you have to forgive her. Advaita he became, she offended me! Mother Saci? She couldn’t offend anyone, she’s so polished, she’s pure, she’s a greatest devotee what the, then he starts to raise her glories how, how that so many ways, such a great devotee of Lord Chaitanya so perfect, so wonderful qualities, how hard, just him, he just started glorifying one after another quality of mother Saci. So this is just like you’re so that personified, such a wonderful, and you never find a mother like that. That are going out, what a devotee she’s always, he became so absorbed in this ecstasy of glorifying Mother Saci, he, phoo, he fell down on the ground. There’s no way he was letting mother Saci get forgiveness, he couldn’t accept that no offence, how she can she had offence? She’s so good like a, boom. Then eventually he was dancing and praising and he, he got so ecstatic, he got stunned and phoo he fell down on the ground. So then Lord Chaitanya said to mother Saci, now she had a chance, grab his feet (laughing). He never give you, you know to steel the dust (laughing), garb his feet, touch him to your head. So she went over there quickly, really (inaudible 43:13), immediately she became ecstatic. She got freed from the offence, immediately she came. This was the problem because whenever Lord Chaitanya would be dancing in ecstasy Kirtan boom sometime he fall on the ground. Mother Saci would always be in the mood you know oh my son His burns, oh its heavy, know this is like a kind of a disturbance to the whole mood of, everyone’s in ecstasy. But sometimes Lord Chaitanya go in these you know, tremendos ecstasy but mother Saci was always in the mood He’s my son, I have to protect His body. The motherly affectionate like devotees mothers all gonna send him socks, He must be cold. So it was like she’s always worried about Lord Chaitanya at that level. After this Lord Chaitanya gave her a special benediction. Whenever the kirtan would start she just be in ecstasy, so whatever happens she’s, she, she was in (laughing)

 

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