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19881125 Finestra Apeota Radio

25 Nov 1988|English|Conversations|Italy

19881125- The following is the recording by his holiness Jayapatākā svāmī on November 25th 1988 in Italy.

 

The report accrued during the Finestra Apeota Radio @ Italy

 

‌Devotee: So Barbara, here she is on the phone. She has gone to listen on the phone. She has gone on a stay on.............. Maybe I can answer and have a conversation with you. She says by listening into the radio she came here last Sunday. She is under the impression that we actually think that the body has to be somehow mistreated or renegaded. Break .............

‌ Devotee: So she has gone to listen to the radio because she wasn't hearing well to the phone. Anyway that is the difference...    She wants to know what to do with the body? What should we do with this body?

‌Gurumaharaj : So this body is according to the philosophy of Kṛṣṇa consciousness a property of God or Kṛṣṇa. And he is giving to us to use for his service. Therefore if you take something from a friend you have to keep it very carefully so you don't misuse it. So we believe that the body is like a vehicle and soul living for in a body is the real self. Therefore we shouldn't cause we should keep the body healthy we should keep it strong we should use it for self-realization.

The body is to be used in such a way there is no excess that way the body we have it’s for stank. The devotees eat very nice vegetarian food, somesiously. They have regulated family life. And they do everything but not to have any excess, cause in the body harm is considered demonic. We want people they live a peaceful happy life and this life can go back to Godhead to the spiritual world after this life

‌Devotee: Sorry I missed it.

‌ Gurumaharaj : We want People to live a peaceful happy life during this lifetime .And after this life can go back to the spiritual world.

‌ Devotee: Is this finished? It’s alright, ok. A philosophical tatva a man has to wake up again after death in sanatan dharma in the ............Hare Kṛṣṇa.

‌ Gurumaharaj : This is a very interesting question. The absolute truth is realized at a different level. Absolute truth is one but it can be realized as the supreme person or as effulgent or as illumination coming from the supreme personality, or as a holy spirit, the Paramatma which is present in everyone's heart . So for those who want to merge into the light which is all pervasive and coming from the lord. This is type of spiritual Suicide in a sense because they give up their cognizance of individuality. Like a one drop of ocean goes into the ocean then it can distinguish itself with many other drops.

The impersonals​ think that one may merge to the ocean they become the ocean .But It doesn't mean that if you put one drop into the ocean it becomes the whole ocean. So if a person realizes the impersonal truth at that time they identify with an unlimited expanse of life.

‌Devotee: That point you said lose

‌Gurumaharaj : they identify with a light and they l cognition individuality. So therefore this is a very unnatural  state. We are internally individual. We never lose our individuality. But we simply can lose our cognizance of the individuality. Then again one will  feel and desire to act Individuality on one individuality after some time. So when that happens if one doesn't know about devotional service of Kṛṣṇa them again want one more want to act to material activity. The nature of the soul is always be active. So being an impersonal realization means inactive.

So when once there was the soul who was at age of the material world and spiritual world and he was going to proceed to spiritual planet. "Gyanamayati Kṛṣṇa" he had to cross the unlimited ocean spiritual effulgent "The Brahmā Jyoti" as he was going to passed that life he suddenly thought that what would it be like in the light . He suddenly started to merge into the light he became so afraid that he was almost completely merged. He called out Kṛṣṇa" Kṛṣṇa" save me. Immediately he was transferred to the spiritual planet. So for the bhakti yogi’s devotional yogi’s this impersonal realization is considered very fearful and they don't want they don't want to lose their individuality.

‌Devotee: Hare Kṛṣṇa Marisa. Russian language.........

‌ she saw you in the film Galalate and was a beautiful film. You were around lots of people while you preached in India.

‌Guru Mahārāja: I like to invite all of you listeners to come visit us to India in Māyāpur. Every year in March we have a festival and you will be very happy ``Maricha" and everyone will come. Russian........

‌ Devotee: This is her desire and everyone desires that this is not sure so easily realized.

‌Russian language..............

‌Guru Mahārāja: Hare Kṛṣṇa "OM tat sat "

So Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākur was the guru of his divine grace AC Bhaktivedanta svāmī Śrīla Prabhupāda. Prabhupāda was the founder Achariya of International society of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. He was ordered by Bhaktisiddhānta to come to the western to world and spread the message of love of Chaitanya mahaprabhu. Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākur  had given this instruction to many of his followers. But Bhaktivedanta svāmī Prabhupāda was the only one to carry out this order therefore he is the one that everyone hears about all over the world. Actually lord chaitanya predicted that his message will be spread to every town and village and every country of the world.

Therefore Śrīla Prabhupāda was the fulfillment of Lord Chaitanya's prediction. Therefore because Śrīla Prabhupāda has been empowered by lord Chaitanya we accept him as the (aaa) the real Acharya or leader after Bhaktisiddhānta for the entire world. The essence of spiritual life is to carry out of the order of the guru. He is the only one who carries out the instruction fully of his spiritual master; he is accepted as the Complete representation of the disciple succession Śrīla Prabhupāda. Of course there are Million of the devotees Vaishnava in the India they are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. There are many gurus and they have disciples but we never made any one significant statue of Bhaktivedanta svāmī. Who has taken such a risk at the age of seventy to go alone to the western world to spread this message and was successful by the mercy of lord almighty.

‌Devotee: Russian language......... Luhisa..

‌Guru Mahārāja : Hare Kṛṣṇa. Grachha, thank you! for your question so the first question is about Jesus Christ and the prediction in the Bhavishya Purana part of the Vishnu Purana about his appearance. This was written around 5000 years ago Predicting that Jesus would come as you know He came 1906 years ago and it's described that " Esha putram" that he would be son of God then he would be preaching to the people in the western part, western India. So I can be very happy together: that, full Sanskrit sloka and send it here by the middle of....aaa.... By the Later part of December,before the Christmas to the Hare Kṛṣṇa center may be you have here that you can get the full Reference and translation.

We can see there that lord Jesus when unique, he is son of God and he is empowered incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, and we accept him as the spiritual master. I will send the reference to that as soon as possible. I just was in India two days ago. Now I am going on a tour to North America, Japan, Malaysia, Thailand and as soon as I go back to India I will get that quote for you .

Malaysia, Thailandiya. Regarding the second question, yes Lord Chaitanya predicted this message will spread by the Vaishnava Brahma Maddava Sampradaya to every town and village all over the world. This also references the revolution of the new testament  Which was to indicate that a similar Vaishnava would be spreading the message of god conscious all over the world. So if the acapolise says that Says the same thing that is doubly confirmed and everyone can be part of this movement by practicing this meditation even in your home. You don't have to change faith, your religion and your way of life. Simply apply your conscious to this mantra. Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare  Chant this and be happy.

Devotee: Question in Russian language...  Rita

Guru Mahārāja : So regarding the unidentified flying object UFOs, Actually the observation of UFO’s have matched up abjectly with the description of similar type of Aircraft mentioned in the Vedas. The Vedas is the ancient Religious of India. And they described that certain flying machines are made from nearby planetary aaaa" and area this run of energy of the sun and any kind of energy they can drug from the atmosphere So when these UFOs go near a high power attention line is be nodded they suck the energy from the electronic attention line. The possibility that there are hollow areas in the earth and sub-strainian living areas within this earth and also other planets is also given in vedas. There are some hollow areas in the earth .Not only this earth but also other planets like the moon and this way the UFOs could come for a number of places.

But they like to hear of them being you disease to parents or you disease to relatives. It's a bit unlikely because of the dependency of where they have taken bath after leaving their life present after they left the body. In case after leaving the body someone can take a bad birth we have service doing special prayer and worshiping that lord so that they are freed from a bad birth. We were hope the UA relative above taken birth and higher planetary system are run back where they can living much more comfortable life. Life is considered the perfective that we can take birth and we can cook the finish of the circle of reincarnation  and go back to this spiritual kingdom of God.

Since this time your first question you have to mention some few words about that Jesus said the Goal of life is to develop love for God, and that the name of God is secret. So no-one should object if you chant the name of God and if you develop love for God . All the religious leaders recently confirm that only one supreme personality of Godhead has a different name and different way of reaching. But the process of bhakti yoga is a type of post graduate practice which anyone can practice from any religion. It's a science of developing love for Godhead. Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Devotee: (Question doesn't mention in English)

Guru Mahārāja: Hare Kṛṣṇa. So this earlier thing mentioned in the prediction of the Bhavishya Purana which predicted that Jesus would come as the son of God with an immaculate birth. And that he was a empowered incarnation of Kṛṣṇa. So because this prediction of Jesus was mentioned that he would be preaching in the western, western part of India. He is directly the son of God. So his character restricts are different from character restricts of Bhaktivedanta svāmī. Even Bhaktivedanta svāmī said he accepted Jesus as his spiritual master, but also the Vedas predicted that Kṛṣṇa himself would come and in the age of kali he would spread love for God to the chanting of the holy name. And 500 years ago, this year in 1486 Kṛṣṇa came as a devotee and his name of the incarnation is Sri Kṛṣṇa Chaitanya, with the purpose of unifying all the atheistic people of the world. Giving the process of pure devotional service.

You know generally the religion but some material objective. But Lord Chaitanya taught that if we offer the service to the lord and pure devotion that gives us greatest satisfaction. So he predicted that this chanting process would be spread all over the world by someone and that it was performed by Śrīla Prabhupāda. So therefore he is the most recent representative of the lord to be on the planet in full form .So we can get a great inspiration, direction from studying his teachings because they are meant to be special for the people of this modern age in the 28th century.

Transcriber: Brajapriya Sundari devi dasi,31st August 2017

Proofread by Rajeshwari, 21/10/2020, Bangalore.

 

 

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