19950123 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.1.26

The following is a class given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami on January 23rd 1995 in Bangalore, Karnataka, India. The class begins with a reading from the Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 6th Canto, Chapter 1, verse 26.

 

bhuñjānaḥ prapiban khādan

 bālakaṁ sneha-yantritaḥ

bhojayan pāyayan mūḍho

 na vedāgatam antakam

 

Repetition by the devotees:

 

bhuñjānaḥ prapiban khādan

 bālakaṁ sneha-yantritaḥ

bhojayan pāyayan mūḍho

 na vedāgatam antakam

 

Repetition by the devotees:

 

Translation:

 

When Ajāmila chewed food and ate it, he called the child to chew and eat, and when he drank, he called the child to drink also. Always engaged in taking care of the child and calling his name, Nārāyaṇa, Ajāmila could not understand that his own time was now exhausted and that death was upon him.

 

Translation, with repetition

 

Purport:

 

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is kind to the conditioned soul. Although this man completely forgot Nārāyaṇa, he was calling his child, saying, “Nārāyaṇa, please come eat this food. Nārāyaṇa, please come drink this milk.” Somehow or other, therefore, he was attached to the name Nārāyaṇa. This is called ajñāta-sukṛti. Although calling for his son, he was unknowingly chanting the name of Nārāyaṇa, and the holy name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is so transcendentally powerful that his chanting was being counted and recorded.

His Holiness Jayapataka Swami: Thus, end the Bhaktivedanta Swami translation purport to Srimad Bhagvatam, 6^th Canto, 1^st chapter, 26^th text in the matter of the History of the life of Ajāmila.

 

Om Tat Sat.

 

So apparently Ajāmila although he was quiet, because he was quiet, he was already quite old at the same time he was having a young son. So, he was enamored by the young sons, broken language and awkward movements and childish antics. So, he became very attached to his youngest son and he was always calling and his son Nārāyaṇa! Nārāyaṇa, come here Nārāyaṇa.

 

So, in this way somehow or another he was always calling on The Holy Name of Nārāyaṇa; and even when the time of death came then and it was only natural that he would be calling on the holy name of Nārāyaṇa!

 

So, we are seeing how that all happened. You see this Ajāmila was a fallen brahmin. He was a brahmin who became a dacoit and a criminal. But somehow because of his upbringing he called his children, at least he called his younger son, we don't the names of other children, he called his youngest son Nārāyaṇa.

 

This is a, we often hear how the Hindu leaders requesting the people to chant together, name their children after names of God. This is very good advice. That was the tradition before it’s like you find many tradition or families give their child name Venkateshwara Śrīnivāsa, Kṛṣṇa, Govinda, Gopāla. So many thousands of names of God so there is no problem.

 

Purandara Dasa, you can always put dasa at the end as well. That way even by calling your son or daughter you can get the benefit of repeating the name of God so many times and getting blessed. However now-a-days it’s quite common they are using English name Daisy and I forget so many funny names.

 

So, they are depriving themselves of the opportunity to remember the name of The Lord when they are calling their son or daughter. Also, the son and daughter by hearing again and again his own name they get some blessing.

 

So, it’s a very, you can say simple way, painless way of just adding a little touch of spirituality to the environment and to the life.

 

Actually, seems that even in Christian tradition it was common to call one by names of different saints like the common English names are Michael, Peter, John, Matthew, William and so on. These are mainly all names of saints. Saint Peter, Saint Williams, Saint Michael.

 

So, in this way, I don't know William is a saint but others for sure they are and so this seems to be in tradition in other. We see even in Islamic they always say Mohammad Ali, Youcef usuf and so many names, they use names of the Prophet and quite frequently in their names. So there seems to be a tradition around the world amongst pious people and we find that this is started million of years ago in previous yugas and satya yuga. This was common there also and by Ajāmila naming his son Nārāyaṇa and constantly calling Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa! (devotees repeating Nārāyaṇa)

 

In this way he was getting so many blessings. Everyone wanted his son to come and eat with me. You come Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa, you come here, eat with me, sit down.

 

So inadvertently He was always going on Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa.

 

So, this is ajñāta-sukṛti. There is two types of Sukṛti. You should know what is the difference between Sukṛti and punya.

 

What are that offences to the holy name is to consider chanting of the holy name to be comparable with punya. If we consider it to be one of the fruitive activities mentioned in the karma kanda. You dig a well, you get so many cows, you offer some, you give your daughter in marriage, kanyadan. Its all punya. You feed a hungry person.

 

So, in reciprocation of a activity done to help another person materially or help many people by bringing a well so many people are benefited, by digging a kunda or by digging a ghat on a sacred river, of course sacred river then again Sukṛti may also be there. Anything just to do with helping the poor, helping others, some material activity of some sort of worshiping a deva you get good karma.

 

Good karma means good birth, means good body, handsome, beautiful appearance, means a good education and also means wealth. Bad karma is the opposite of those things.

 

As well as various kinds of problems, disease, legal problem, financial problem and so on. So, people are naturally very attracted to getting the good karmas because dharma, artha, kama, mokṣa , we need money to get kama, to get the sense gratification. But by that good karma is very difficult to get mokṣa . What you can get is swarga. You maximum get out to the heavenly planets.

 

In order to get mokṣa there is then some different processes are required of yoga. Now Sukṛti, you see in a karma, everything is written in a different book by Yamarāja, He has got his Chitragupta and they keep intact all the good and bad karma. So, for good karma you get the good things and for the bad karmas you have to suffer. The results of sin or pāpaṁ.

 

Now Sukṛti is a totally different book, accounting department is different. There its kept track by Kṛṣṇa, that's Kṛṣṇa's book. And things that go in Sukriti accountant department is a particularly are those things in relation to Kṛṣṇa.

 

Chanting His name, like when Ajāmila was calling Nārāyaṇa!

Ok you chanted Nārāyaṇa, ok there goes down, special book in this way he was getting even without knowing it, he was getting ajñāta-sukṛti, ajnata means unknowingly he was getting.

 

That way one-time Lord Chaitanya was talking with Haridas Thakur, the naamacharya and he said that now so many people are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. When would that day be, I wish to see again ha.

 

Lord Chaitanya He was saying most of the people at that time were chanting all the caste hindus were chanting, brahmanas, kṣatriyas, vaishyas and śūdras even. Mostly everybody was chanting. Preaching had become so successful, then Lord Chaitanya was He was saying that well few pockets are there that we still didn't get, they were argumentative, speculative students and professors you know, they are always a tough nut to crack. Then he saw okay they all are the fishermen, you know somehow, they are in the beach there with in little shanty towns going out all the time fishing, its easy for them to escape the ordinary net of preaching.

 

So, he was saying how about the fishermen and how about the non-hindus or all above the yavanas, the meat eaters and others, how about the muslims, He was concerned why, how to get all of them delivered.

 

So, then Haridas Thakur said don't worry, please don't be in anxiety. You see this is the mood of the devotees they want to satisfy the Lord.

 

So, when Lord was in anxiety, immediately Haridas Thakur he felt so much touched as The Lord is in anxiety became intolerable. Please don't be in anxiety. Then he mentioned that even for instance the Muslims, Mohammedi’s, they have a word when something is considered very despicable religious considerations, they say haraam, harami, haraam, haraam.

 

So, he said by saying haraam somehow, they are saying ha ram, o dear Ram. Ha, so although in their mind they may be thinking something else but ha is O my dear, Rāma is the name of The Lord Ram, so they are saying haraam, haraam. They are chanting the name of Ram. Right if they see pig, pig meat i guess, then they say haraam, haraam.

 

So somehow or another knowingly or unknowingly, or knowingly they are chanting name of Ram.  I was in Malaysia you know that previously Malaysia was all Hindu. So they have a unique language, it’s a combination of lot of sanskrit words are there.

 

Like their name for, for the Malayee people they call him bhumiputra.

 

So pure sanskrit and the names of the cars are the proton cars but all the names are Easwara, Kṣatriya like that all sanskrit names. But in their language the word for day somehow or previously one of the kings adopted this, the word for day is Hari, so christmas day is Harikismas.

 

So, they are saying everyone Harikismas, Harikismas. So Harikismas is almost like Hare Kṛṣṇa. (devotees laughing).

 

But in Skandapurana it mentions whoever says the two syllables Hari, Haareeeee, Hareeee, in sanskrit the word Hari, haran means to steal, so hari also to take away so Hari takes away all your bad karma. Just when you speak the two syllables Hareeee, of course the devotees like to chant also, Gauraaa, Hareee, Hareee, Gauraaa, Gaura Hari. So Gaura is also giving Prema.

 

Somehow the people there in Malaysia they are so fortunate that is by speaking you know, you know what day will you come and, in their language, then they are saying what Hari will you come. So many times, they are saying Hari.

 

In Spanish the word for branch is Rāma . If you want to say branch of the society, (GM speaks in Spanish), the branch of your society, right, if correct them he says Argentina you know.  So somehow people around the world they are getting Ajñāta Sukṛti.

 

Of course, normally people won't be saying Rāma so many times, branch but Hari of course I think Malaysians are getting more benefit. Its day we have to say many times.

 

Here Ajāmila he was chanting all the time Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa, where is Nārāyaṇa. (Devotees repeating after GM). So, in this way he is getting ajñāta sukṛti. Ajñāta means unknowingly they are just saying another, they are thinking they or he is thinking son or someone's thinking branch or whatever it might be, someones thinking you know blasphemy, haraam, somehow, they are chanting the name of The Lord.

 

So even unknowingly chanting the name of The Lord, even then you get some credit. But you knowingly chant

 

Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare

Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare.

 

That's called jñāta Sukṛti. Knowingly doing a service to The Lord. That benefit is much more. Somehow Ajāmila chanted Nārāyaṇa enough unknowingly, that is his choir was up, enough that he could achieve deliverance.

 

Someone is knowingly chanting

 

Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare

Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare,

 

Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare

Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare.

So much blessings they are getting and the more sincerely they chant the more enthusiastically they chant the more they chant with concentration and devotion the more Kṛṣṇa will be pleased.

 

So, quality and quantity both are there.

 

Śrīla Prabhupad said sometimes some businessman may also say Govinda, Govinda but that chanting may not be of the same quality. If  One is specially chanting like a child calling for the mother then it has a much greater effect, that helpless chanting like Draupadī went she was been attacked by Dushasana, she just called out Kṛṣṇa, Keśava, which we can’t even imitate how she called out that time she was so helpless that Kṛṣṇa even though He was so far away He immediately came.

 

Kṛṣṇa and His name are not different they are connected under transcendental platform. See one even someone unconsciously chants, Kṛṣṇa is there. He may come there but because they are unconscious O, they called me but they are thinking something else alright even then, blessings. But if you are calling and you want Kṛṣṇa then so much more is Kṛṣṇa pleased by your chanting. If somebody is only chanting for business reasons so then the name doesn't take the full spiritual form.

 

See here Ajāmila was chanting but not with any motive he just chanting his son's name. So, he was with that neutral mind. But sometimes professional people you pay them they'll chant. So, they are chanting with a motive. They are really motivated people, so that chanting gives punya, still it’s the name of God, but somehow it doesn't give full spiritual benefit to the chanter and to the listeners depends on their mental frame.

 

Śrīla Bhakti Siddhanta Thakur was saying one of these professional singers the sound may be Hare Kṛṣṇa may be some Kṛṣṇa, Govinda Hare Murāri or something but really what the vibration that coming out is money money money money money give me money, give me fame so that's not having doesn't penetrate so deep in the consciousness.

 

That's why you see that in spite of hearing so many professional singers people they don't change. They remain in the same mental frame after hearing may while they are hearing they are feeling something but then after that as it was, confirmed; but when Prabhupad chanted then naturally people's hearts get changed.

 

When Nārada Muni met Mṛgāri the hunter and he was chanting then Mṛgāri 's heart was little bit changed, softened. That is the special potency of chanting by the devotees.

 

One time we were with Śrīla Prabhupad we went to Wardha in Maharashtra to the ashram of Vinoda Bhave and at that time there was a worldwide conference on Bhagavad Gītā and Vinoda Bhave's ashram he had many [00:26:03] on one side and another side there was one Yogi from some society, yoga society, who were basically impersonalists.

 

So Prabhupad had devotees do a kirtan then he spoke. Vinoda Bhave had the ladies chant the chapter I think 9th chapter of Bhagavad Gita and he spoke something then this other Māyāvādī.

 

When the devotees were chanting the people were like you know moving and clapping their hands you could see that there was like some attraction to The Holy names. So, you know that Māyāvādī he was somewhat I think he was little envious of Prabhupad's immediate kind of popularity or something. He started this some very unusual kirtan he said, he told this far we are going to chant then he was just going you know 'Jai Sat cid ānanda, Kṛṣṇam Sat cid ānanda rūpam', something you know I can't exactly do that. (devotees laugh).

 

Everybody was looking and kind of you know what is this, it was like supposed to be a kirtan but it was like you know kind of offbeat and mantra was totally speculative kind of. So, everybody was getting you know impatience this thing is going on I was trying to you know some kind of and Prabhupad he just told the devotees to chant.

 

Just do a kirtan. And right in the middle we have guru got up and just started a big kirtan. Everybody even Vinoda Bhave was you know moving. It was like non-devotee chanting maybe he was getting some Sukṛti but it was very uninspiring for the people as compared to the devotee probably Prabhupad said whenever a pure devotee chant you see you are all pure devotees you are chanting for the pleasure of Kṛṣṇa, it has a touches people's hearts. It goes deep penetration.

 

Somehow Ajāmila was going on chanting his son's name after a long time i mean you can his son was already four five years may be three four years old by this time he still chanting every not once a day thousand time a day he is chanting Nārāyaṇa Nārāyaṇa Nārāyaṇa come here, eat with me, sit with me.

 

So, all the time he is chanting Nārāyaṇa Nārāyaṇa. Somehow the accumulated affect was enough. You see but it was a rare rare good fortune for Ajāmila. Devotees when they chant that has an affect we see on the streets around the world. It’s a quite common you find the people even I have met some new devotees they said that when I was 8 years old i was walking on the street at times and i saw the kirtan party I was so attracted my father grabbed me, pulled me away. They can remember, they remember clearly their whole life that kirtan party has a very deep impact. I know when i first time i saw a kirtan party I never forget.

 

So, this is very special blessing that we have. This to receive the Harinam from Prabhupad and the devotees and it’s a very special blessing we can give to people. Now see someone might hear the chanting, they don't know what it is. so, but still they are hearing so they are even without knowing what it is that's ajñāta sukṛti.

 

Now Sukṛti is in Kṛṣṇa's book. Sukṛti doesn't get spent like punya and paap, it remains in a fixed deposit, FD spiritual and it revolves like recurring deposit as much as you do the chanting of The Holy names in devotional service you get more deposit. If you do aparadha, offences, that can take out from your sukriti in addition to giving you sin it also affects your Sukṛti. That's why when this king of bona Viṣṇupura he was robbing the people passing through his kingdom then he was listening to Bhagvatam he thought by hearing Bhagvatam i'll get free from this sin.

 

Actually that's an offence to do a sin on the strength of chanting or the strength of some devotional activity but he did not have proper guru but he kind of knew there was a difference because when he stole he sent his astrologers told him that there was priceless treasure coming through his kingdom and he sent them out to bring and it was a big box he won't even let them see what was in this] all thousand gold coins or something and then he had it opened up his treasury and he saw it was all holy books.

 

It was actually Chaitanya Caritāmṛta and all the books of our sampradaya written by the six Goswamis, Kṛṣṇadas Kaviraj and other authors in Vṛndāvan, the Goswami’s and Lord Chaitanaya's disciples. He saw they were holy books he said no I am finished. I committed offence, I stolen some sadhu's holy books, you know I could steal. [00:32:13] I'll ask somebody that's the sin you know maybe I can get free from that somehow or another but if I committed offence then I am finished, so now I am finished, I committed offence to some sādhu, I'll never get free from this one unless I get these books back to those sadhus.

 

So there is different category totally different category offence and Sukṛti, it is completely higher transcendental plain. And sin and good karmas, punya, gyana, all material temporary level. When you do Sukṛti you also get punya that's like a side benefit.

 

Sukṛti is very high and when you do aparadha you can also get sin at the same time but if you do punya doesn't mean you get Sukṛti if it’s not connected with Kṛṣṇa and if you do sin it doesn't mean it’s also offence.

 

That is why Śrīla Prabhupad he was as how is it the westerners have taken so quickly they were so sinful but sin is not the obstacle because by chanting even one time the holy name Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hari Bol, Hari Bol, Hari Bol, Hari Bol, Hari Bol, Hari Bol, you can be freed from unlimited sin. Then people can become easily God conscious. The Problem is offence.

 

So, in the beginning nobody have heard about Hare Kṛṣṇa.

 

When Prabhupad went he had a clean field, no one had ever heard of Kṛṣṇa, only sin was there. You see now in the meantime kali has arranged to commit many offences against a devotee.

 

Even in India when we came to India the first thing all the politicians and the left wing they were putting up you know even he had that Dev Anand Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Ram dum mari dum so sadly the first two three years I was in anytime anybody saw us they would point and they would say all these things dum mari dum. Had a totally wrong idea here we don't even take coffee and tea may think that we are smoking hasish and ganja and it was very now fortunately people forgot that and they are very respectful but in the beginning it was very difficult and then that Gopesh Gupta in Parliament, Bhupesh Gupta; he raised the point anti all Hare Kṛṣṇa CI.

 

So then for long time everyone in fact even came out in one local paper in Bengal that in our [00:35:12] this all intercontinental ballistic missile with nuclear warhead you know. We did a criminal case against them and said let them prove that you can prove how many missile are there, you know with all the security you can't even bring a bullet to the custom how you'll bring a intercontinental ballistic missile. But there are some people they think you know they wanted to where is that with your missile just see that you know.

 

So, by these kind of things people hear offences against devotees, so it actually is a impediment for their doing devotional service.

 

Like in the west all these Christians groups are committing suicide, mass suicide in Jones town recently in Switzerland and so then they are called as the couth (not sure) in the west. Actually for couth was a technical word a possible word used by scholars to indicate a kind of religious movement which was coming all over greater origin, but now it’s taken a negative connotation in the west. Couth means some kind of deviant group and everything.

 

So many times, Prabhupad used to say couth word in Chaitanya Caritāmṛta, that time it had no bad meaning. Recently in Harvard some of the big scholars we shouldn't use that word anymore because now it has taken a negative connotation.

 

So, all these christian small groups committing suicide and they are called ok they have used the word couths, dangerous couth. So somehow our style loved being Hare Kṛṣṇa, we don't commit mass suicide, we are against suicide, we are for eternal life. But because all this kind of propaganda, misinformation, some people in the west in some countries they hear some offences, this can be an impediment in their spiritual progress you see but sin wasn't an impediment, so whoever the offences the more you see the more hard for people to become devotee and wherever there is less offences even the people might be sinful they become devotees easier.

 

So, in our own spiritual life we should be very careful not to commit offences, not to hear unconstructive criticism against any Vaishnava, not to do any kind of criticisms that are not constructive and proper, should be in a very careful mood to simply do devotional service and to avoid all kinds of offence.

 

Chant as much we should be trying to rack up as many points as we can in Kṛṣṇa's book, as many good notations. Build up a fixed deposit as much as we can. Maya is so strong even big sadhus, even very saintly people they sometimes get misled, you know we all know from Bhagvad Gītā how there is Ikṣvāku, he is the son of Manu and he received Bhagvad Gītā, then he had four principle sons, maybe it was eight principle sons. He gave each of them an area of ilavarta varsha to be in charge of, an area of the earthly plain. So, he saw astrologically one of his sons,

 

In fact, he was the youngest son he was a very pious son. Well learned, good looking, well behaved, you could see that astrologically he was going to make a major mistake in his life and be punished.

 

So, he gave him the name Dandak and so but he gave him also one kingdom and he was there in, he was in charge of a part of India and he had people who were very happy under his rule. He was a good administrator and everything but somehow Dandaka he went one time he went into the forest and there was, a very big forest and there was a rishi there, forgot the name of the rishi, it’s in the Padma Purana, forget, there was Agastya muni told the story but i forget the name of the rishi who was concerned.

 

So, one rishi had ashram then rishis were mainly grahasthas, so he had, also had a beautiful daughter.

 

Just so happened that the daughter was just at the bud of youth and she was very beautiful, very well formed and everything and she was just coming back from taking the bath, she was very you know there is nobody in that forest so she was not very dressed very much, scantily dressed after taking the bath and somehow this young king he saw her and he became very attracted and he said 'who are you' and you know 'I'll like to marry you, I'll like to know who you, you know 'very attracted by you', immediately he made a proposition to her.

 

She became very embarrassed and said look i am the daughter of this rishi, you can't speak with me like this, you know if my father finds out he will become very angry and he can burn you to a ash at once and if you want at all, if you want to say anything with me you have to go and talk with him and you make a proper proposal to my father otherwise you know please don't talk with me, this is a very improper for a young man to talk with a single woman like this in a lonely place.

 

But somehow this Dandaka, in spite of being in a good family, son of Ikshvaku Maharaj and so many good qualities, his lust overcame him and he just went, he started kissing that girl and took off her clothes, basically he raped her and then he left went back to his kingdom and left her like that, she is on the ground, she is bleeding, she is crying, her father came with so many disciples and saw her daughter in this state and he became so furious, immediately because of his mystic power he knew who did it, he knew what happened and so then he cursed that that Dandak and his entire kingdom was going to be covered by so many, I forget how many hundred years constant, eight hundred miles area would be totally covered by a rain of ashes for so many years and everything there would be completely wiped out and he told all the brahamanas  he sent message to all the brahmanas you got like three days to get out, this whole kingdom is going to anyone that wants to save themselves so all the brahmanas [00:43:23] brahmanas packed up and just they all left and before he knew it the clouds came over and started just raining and raining and raining ashes, everything got covered by ashes , everything died and that place became know as Dandak aranya.

 

Of course, Lord Rāma went there, he was in Dandak aranya, that big forest was, that's how it got the name. That's the place where Dandak met his end. So here was a good person you see everything he was you couldn't see anything wrong but he made one grievous error, right, offence by molesting an innocent daughter, a devotee, a daughter of a great rishi and because of that he, his family, the whole everything was ruined.

 

So specially we have to very careful to avoid any kind of offence especially those who are to be protected, children, ladies, the elderly, all these are supposed to be protected, devotees. Someone does some harm or molestation or any kind of sinful activity like the person who is supposed to be protected and it gets multiplied. So even a very powerful person like that king Dandaka he became the cause of Dandak aranya, just a huge jungle, finished, no more kingdom, everything finished.

 

So, we have to be very careful. Not to get lust take the better of us otherwise we can be finished, just like Ajāmila he was finished by his lust he left his brahaminical activities. But somehow his is a success story because at the end of life he chanted Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa. So, we can also have a success story from whatever our past karmas might be if we simply chant

 

Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare

Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma Hare Hare

(devotees repeat after GM) and avoid all offences. Hare Kṛṣṇa.

 

Any question. Suburi Kṛṣṇa Das. What about the English word of Hare Kṛṣṇa?

What is that English word Hare Kṛṣṇa in English is Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, Hari.

I don't know how close you have to be, how many points, that we have to discuss with the score keeper. (Everyone laughs). I am not keeping score, I am just telling you to hurry up, get back to Kṛṣṇa. O they say hurry up, let’s get ajñāta then, I don't know then in English they might say hurry up, hurry up I don't know hurry is same as Hari, you see. Of course someone , some ones trying to say Hare Kṛṣṇa like in some in some people in Indo-China they are not able to pronounce the syllable 'Ra', they say 'la', so you say sometime they say Hale Kṛṣṇa Hale Klisna Klisna Krisna Hale Hale, but actually they are trying to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, so that way they get Sukṛti, there is no doubt because it’s like a small child trying he can't say father, but he says papa, so the father even likes it more, he is trying to chant my name, mama, mummy like so even they may not pronounce it perfectly but they can because intention is there so someone who is trying to chant the holy names but even they don't pronounce it right they get the Sukṛti by Kṛṣṇa's  mercy.

 

There is someone chanting some totally different syllable and not thinking about Kṛṣṇa; well the closer it is the better chance you have whether its exact syllable then you are scoreable you know you are right on target.

 

There are many aa in English there are some words many time I find that people have names that contain Isha the word Isha is often in within people's names aa but I can't think just now but I come across different names I was look for naam aabhas that they have a little name of Kṛṣṇa hidden in their name and many times you find that.

So, hurry up, I guess if you say Indian way hurry up then you get the benefit. Any other question? Yes.

 

Nārāyaṇa antar smriti, you should remember Nārāyaṇa, you can even mentally be chanting also, even if physically you can't, mentally you can. But there is a statement, i forget exactly where was this statement that Kṛṣṇa protects.

 

Just like in Gita it says "Yogashemam vahamyaham,  whatever you lack I carry and whatever you need I provide, no whatever you have I care, whatever you need I provide and so that way even at the time of death because of some coma or whatever some kind of situation we are not able to chant, somebody is been practicing devotee they can still Kṛṣṇa can out of His own causeless mercy can deliver them. That's, that option is there always Kṛṣṇa promises the "Name Bhakta Pranashyati", my devotee will never perish.

 

So that way we shouldn't be fearful that if we are chanting the whole life may be, we get tricked at the end by some quake of fate or something, no Kṛṣṇa He'll reciprocate with us. Our sincere effort.

 

Of course somehow or another we are able to be conscious, there was a disciple I had, died in Italy and she had AIDS and was told that was Bhaktin Rosa then she took initiation, what was her name, Rasa....aa..Raseshwari Devi Dasi, Rupeshwari, and doctors told her that there was no hope for you, you have got 7 days, maybe she had cancer not AIDS, she had cancer, cancer I think we gave everything gurmukhya isn't it. So that way the devotees came and were chanting.

 

And even Madhusuvita Prabhu, one of the ISKCON guru, some of dear godbrothers he was, he also just arrived at that time and everyone was chanting around her and she could just chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and leave her body.

 

So that's like a classic I mean even Madhusuvita said 'If I could leave my body like that, i put down you know this how I want it '. Everyone chanting around and you can just be conscious of Kṛṣṇa and. So the devotees they help people to know someone is going to die this time they can be there they can help them to remember Kṛṣṇa, that's ideal situation, You know, being in IC clinic and all life support system and trying to just keep you going, that's not just as important as getting eternal life support, you see that's actually important is to be able to be transferred back to Kṛṣṇa. So that's where the devotees can help.

 

But even if somehow or another that doesn't happen when someone’s been practicing Kṛṣṇa says don't worry you never suffer a loss because of doing devotional service. Hare Kṛṣṇa.