19901214 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 2.7.27

The following is a lecture given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami on December 14th, 1990 in Sridham Māyāpur. The Class begins with a reading from the Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 2nd Canto, Chapter 7, Verse 27.

Jayapatākā Swami: ‘There is no doubt about Lord Kṛṣṇa’s being the Supreme Lord. Otherwise, how was it possible for him to kill a giant demon like Pūtanā when He was just on the lap of His mother, to overturn a cart with His leg when He was only three months old, to uproot a pair of arjuna trees so high that they touched the sky, when He was only crawling. All these activities are not possible for anyone other than the Lord himself.

Purport (by Visnupada Śrīla Prabhupāda): One cannot manufacture a God by one’s mental speculation or by numerical votes, as has become a practice for the less intelligent class of men. God is God eternally, and an ordinary living entity is eternally a part and parcel of God. God is one without a second, and the ordinary living entities are many without number. Jai Radha Madhava Khi Jai!... All such living entities are maintained by God Himself, and that is the verdict of the Vedic literatures. When Kṛṣṇa was on the lap of His mother, the demon Pūtanā appeared before His mother and prayed to nurture the child in her lap. Mother Yaśodā agreed, and the child was transferred onto the lap of Pūtanā, who was in the garb of a respectable lady. Pūtanā wanted to kill the child by smearing poison on the nipple of her breast. But when everything was complete, the Lord sucked her breast along with her very air of life, and the demon’s gigantic body, said to be as long as six miles, fell down. But Lord Kṛṣṇa did not need to expand Himself to the length of the she-demon Pūtanā, although He was quite competent to extend Himself more than six miles long. In His Vāmana incarnation He posed Himself as a dwarf brāhmaṇa, but when He took possession of His land, promised by Bali Mahārāja, He expanded His footstep to the top of the universe, extending over thousands and millions of miles. So it was not very difficult for Kṛṣṇa to perform a miracle by extending His bodily feature, but He had no desire to do it because of His deep filial love for His mother, Yaśodā. If Yaśodā had seen Kṛṣṇa in her lap extending six miles to cope with the she-demon Pūtanā, then the natural filial love of Yaśodā would have been hurt because in that way Yaśodā would have come to know that her so-called son, Kṛṣṇa, was God Himself. And with the knowledge of the Godhood of Kṛṣṇa, Yaśodāmayī would have lost the temper of her love for Kṛṣṇa as a natural mother. But as far as Lord Kṛṣṇa is concerned, He is God always, either as a child on the lap of His mother, or as the coverer of the universe, Vāmanadeva. He does not require to become God by undergoing severe penances, although some men think of becoming God in that way. By undergoing severe austerities and penances, one cannot become one or equal with God, but one can attain most of the godly qualities. A living being can attain godly qualities to a large extent but he cannot become God. Whereas Kṛṣṇa, without undergoing[audio break ]- Śakaṭāsura, who had remained hidden behind a cart in the house of Yaśodāmayī. And when He was crawling and was disturbing His mother from doing household affairs, the mother tied Him with a grinding pestle, but the naughty child dragged the pestle up to a pair of very high arjuna trees in the yard of Yaśodāmayī, and when the pestle was stuck between the pair of trees, they fell down with a horrible sound. When Yaśodāmayī came to see the happenings, she thought that her child had been saved from the falling trees by the mercy of the Lord, without knowing that the Lord Himself, crawling in her yard, had wreaked the havoc. So that is the way of reciprocation of love affairs between the Lord and His devotees. Yaśodāmayī wanted to have the Lord as her child, and the Lord played exactly like a child in her lap, but at the same time played the part of the Almighty Lord whenever it was so required. The beauty of such pastimes was that the Lord fulfilled everyone’s desire. In the case of felling the gigantic arjuna trees, the Lord’s mission was to deliver the two sons of Kuvera, who were condemned to become trees by the curse of Nārada, as well as to play like a crawling child in the yard of Yaśodā, who took transcendental pleasure in seeing such activities of the Lord in the very yard of her home. The Lord in any condition is Lord of the universe, and He can act as such in any form, gigantic or small, as He likes.

Thus, ends the Bhaktivedanta Swami translation purport to the Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Canto two-chapter seven text twenty-seven, in the matter of scheduled incarnation with specific functions

Gven this day 540th year of our Lord Gaurāṅga, the 14th of December 1990, Śrī Māyāpur Chandrodaya mandir.

Translation: There is no doubt about Lord Kṛṣṇa’s being the Supreme Lord. Otherwise, how was it possible for Him to kill a giant demon like Pūtanā when He was just on the lap of His mother, to overturn a cart with His leg when He was only three months old, or to uproot a pair of arjuna trees so high that they touched the sky, when He was only crawling? All these activities are not possible for anyone other than the Lord Himself.

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare
Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare

Jayapatākā Swami: This point is very very important, people don’t understand who lord Kṛṣṇa is. I met one smārta-brāhmaṇa in South India who would everyday chant the sahasranāma of Viṣṇu in the many supta supta.. what it’s called , sūtras, or sūktas. But he admitted that in his pūjā room he would put all these pictures because he didn’t know who was the supreme, he didn’t know if it was Kṛṣṇa or Śiva, Brahma or Durga or who it was, so not to miss out anybody, he put everybody’s picture. To be full proof but when he, somehow or other he became a life member of ISKCON and he got full set of books, but he also admitted that for 3 years he never opened the books.

One day something by the will of providence happened, he picked out one of the books and started to read it and *most *of *he *read, the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, within a few minutes he realize that Lord Kṛṣṇa was the Supreme personality of Godhead, although he has been practicing Hindu dharma his whole life, no one ever told him.

He said it, in all my years of being a brāhmaṇa, a pandit, a Sanskrit scholar, this one fact no one ever told me, that Kṛṣṇa was God. He said they are all one, doesn’t matter who you worship, they are all equal , this is what we always heard, but he wasn’t fully sure, but anyway he kept everybody, if they are all one anyone was good enough. But they are not sure so because they keep all. But after reading Prabhupāda books, he was clear.

Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, then he came to the temple, and instead of his former life member relationship, he started to chant every day, japa,

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare
Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare

And he boldly would tell people that by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa and reading Śrīla Prabhupada’s books, this has had the dynamic change in my life. Has created, dynamic, revolutionary change in my life.

So this verse clearly states there’s no doubt of Lord Kṛṣṇa being the supreme Lord, otherwise how would it be possible for him to do and give so many examples. Unfortunately our modern people hear the pastimes of Mahābharata or the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, they consider how is it possible for anyone to do these things so it must be legends, mythologies, nobody can do these things, there must be fiction.

But everything the Lord does is extraordinary because he is the Supreme lord. There’s no limitation for us, we have a limit and now in modern science, we’ve been able to define our limits very clearly but Lord Kṛṣṇa is there to amaze everyone because he is "aparimita" - He doesn’t have any limit. Ananta, without anta, without end, this is the wonderful thing. But this to do what Vāmana Deva did and expand himself from dwarf to cover the whole universe this is also very interesting, very nice.

But see how Lord Kṛṣṇa’s double role makes it think even more complex, he simultaneously has to kill the demons while keeping himself covered like he is an ordinary child. We have a perverted reflection in western culture which is with the Superman, who is trying play the weak and mild Clark Kent the newspaper reporter and whenever there’s an emergency, he goes and behind the corner and comes out shhh, Superman with the big ‘S’, then he hides himself again, just like a kind a perverted reflection. Here, Kṛṣṇa doesn’t even hide himself, he does things in such a way, people think it was an accident, no one was there, it’s the same Kṛṣṇa, not fiction, fact!

In fact, appearing always to his parents like the little meek mild child, totally dependent on their love and affection and while to the demons he is death personified, wiping them all one after another.

Kamsa sending loads of demons one after another to kill Kṛṣṇa and whilst his playing as a child, he finishes off each one in such a way so easily that it appears like it happened accidently, nobody can figure out what happened?.

Some demons calling up to kill him behind the cart, everybody’s kind of looking the other way, he just gives this kick to the cart, knocks it over and smashes down on the demon. Actually the demon came with the cart I believe, either way then everyone looks ‘oh what happen, this cart broke, our baby was saved’.

Jaya Rādha-Mādhava! so this made the pastime doubly interesting that Kṛṣṇa is maintaining different humours at the same time predominantly this sakhya-rasa, vātsalya-rasa and mādhurya-rasa of Vṛndāvan are the main, then little disturbances are coming through these demons in the chivalrous rasa trying to do something horrible. As so Kṛṣṇa in his Viṣṇu aspect to maintain the order of the universe He kills of these demons in such a way not to disturb the loving flow of His friends and His parents. And everybody thought that He was the supreme Lord, they might be a little bit afraid of Him.

When one cowherd boy, who was returning from the material world, where he had spent some time like a conditioned soul. He was returning back to the spiritual world, when he got to Vaikuṇṭha, at the crossing the fourteen planetary systems, Śiva loka, Devī dhāma, Maheśa dhāma, going to the brahma-jyoti reached the Viṣṇu-loka, the Vaikuṇṭha-dhāma.

So, there he wasn’t feeling happy, when he saw Nārāyaṇa, because his siddha-svarūpa was a cowherd boy, immediately his spontaneous devotional instinct, his devotional desire was to go and embrace Nārāyaṇa with love and affection because his svarūpa being was sakhya-rasa with Kṛṣṇa whenever he saw something reminded him of Kṛṣṇa, he just wanted to go & embrace it.

But then in the Vaikuṇṭha everyone knows that Nārāyaṇa is the Supreme Lord, they know he is all majesty, all power, all fame, all everything, so there everyone is offering the Vedic mantras oṁ, great awe and reverence, calm, complete respect.

So here is the devotees coming and he wants to embrace Nārāyaṇa. Everyone, ‘what are you doing, get back, stop! Who is this guy, pushed him back. Where is he coming from you know’. Of course Nārāyaṇa could understand his desire to serve him, but Viśvaksena and other ‘Whats going wrong with this person he doesn`t know this is Nārāyaṇa, you don’t go up like that, what’s he trying to do, they were trying to get nearer, you know, they didn’t know what he was up to, coming up.

So then Nārāyaṇa in the back, he took him back come to see me in my gardens. So in the back he had private gardens, somewhere, some private gardens in his in Vaikuṇṭha they have public and private garden, so he had some private garden then everything and all facilities. And then Nārāyaṇa transformed himself like a cowherd boy, like Gopāla, to play with this, but because all around is Vaikuṇṭha, you know, everywhere big palaces, and four handed devas you know, Vaikuṇṭha-vāsī, Viṣṇujanas.

Although Nārāyaṇa could create this kind of a situation but that cowherd boy knew this it was Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa had taken the form of a cowherd boy, it’s like yoga-māyā didn’t in that atmosphere, didn’t do the full setup, like in Goloka Vṛndāvan. So, it wasn’t the same, that rasa, that flavor wasn’t there, once he could realize this was Nārāyaṇa and he is just trying to playing like a boy with me but that flow of friendly affection was always a little bit you know didn’t come out properly. Because he kept thinking this is Nārāyaṇa, this is Nārāyaṇa, this is Nārāyaṇa, this is the supreme lord.

So there wasn’t, didn’t work out, was, wasn’t there the right situation, so then eventually, that soul, he had to go back to Goloka Vṛndāvana, it was only place. To get to Goloka Vṛndāvana He had to come here to this world, to stall up Bhūmi Gokula and engage in the service of the Lord, in His Kṛṣṇa avatar and from here he could transfer back to Goloka. From Vaikuṇṭha he can’t go to Goloka, there’s no road, to get to, from Vaikuṇṭha. If you stop off in Vaikuṇṭha, from Vaikuṇṭha you, don’t have the right attitude to go to Goloka, you’ll, you’ll carry over you know, I know who Kṛṣṇa is, I knew this cowherd boy is, his the supreme lord, his the original Nārāyaṇa. He’ll mess up the whole things so you come back down here to Gokula, and engage in Kṛṣṇa’s pastime to get totally integrated, and then you go from here back to Goloka Vṛndāvan and you don’t know, that Kṛṣṇa is god in Goloka Vṛndāvan.

You just know he is your friend, or your son or your lover, your fiancé, and you love him. And you serve with him and you play, there’s no demons there, how demons get by Jaya Vijaya, even the four Kumāras couldn’t get by, what to speak about demon. Four Kumāras have to get by only with Nārāyaṇa’s intervention of course, they’re being a little over zealous, but demons can't get by the seven gates of Vaikuṇṭha what to speak of getting all the way to Goloka Vṛndāvana. So there, there is just a feeling that may be some demon will come, just to make a little bit of bhāva, or rasa.

But here in Gokula, there’s real life demons. So, here the pastimes have a certain flavor to them which, because of the setting, add something. Although the mellow is not different in the spiritual world and here, some of our previous ācāryas they considered that even Gokula and the material world, because of this realistic setting had got certain advantages over the spiritual world. And anyway that’s a very high topic which is beyond my capacity to go into. But whether we are here in the material world serving the lord in the holy-dhāma or whether we are serving in the eternal dhāma in the spiritual world, the transcendental service to the Lord is the same and if we are completely purified, it doesn’t matter where we are.

Unfortunately, in this material world, the purification is at the utmost, urgent need, the only reason we are not able to fully appreciate Kṛṣṇa’s pastimes is due to the contamination of this materialistic mind and body.

What to speak of now in Kali-yuga, where everything is tāmasika and rājasika. Even the two sons of Kuvera, were born in the devas, the demigod’s family, in a higher planet, where everything is very much in the mode of goodness. Even they got intoxicated and started to do naked bathing with the girls in the holy river. Committing offences to the holy river, somehow by the mercy of Nārada Muni, they got cursed, to become trees, but not ordinary trees, trees in the house of Kṛṣṇa.

Here we're in the material world of this seventh rate planet, in the age of Kali, when everything is very much degraded. Vedic culture is here only in a very limited fashion in India and in the rest of the world, practically speaking it’s not there at all.

Even the Indians who live outside of India like in Malaysia, Singapore, very small percentages of even the women women continue to wear sarees. They’re wearing so many different kinds of non-Vedic dresses, and further you go away from India, the further it goes away from the Vedic culture. You don’t see any hint of Vedic culture in the rest of the world, previous to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s going there.

So people are trained so many technological things, trained in the history of the world, but very much from a point of view that we’re the body and bodily satisfaction is ultimately what life is about. Although this contradicts very clear instructions given in the holy scripture like Bible and Quran where corporal pleasure is warned against them. Regulated different ways but somehow modern progress has brought people to the conclusion that life is simply a combination of chemicals, coming from a very old soup, some billions of years ago.

And Śrīla Prabhupāda said that people are going to get fed-up, with this science, setted up. He said fifty years, only about forty left, people are going to get tired, science, science, science, science, doesn’t make people happy, it’s a fact! But it’s a dead-end fact.

Dead either by blowing itself up with nuclear weapon or just dead end because the ultimate conclusion is not correct, we’re not simply matter. We’re the we’re spirit, Bhagavad-gītā very clearly explains Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam clearly explains we’re combination of material energy and spiritual energy. And we are actually the spiritual energy this material energy is just the mechanism which is providing us mobility and ability to satisfy our material desires.

The same mechanism can be used in devotional service and if we use the mechanism of this body and mind in devotional service, then our life is a success, then we can integrate in Lord Kṛṣṇa’s pastimes in his holy dhāma. We can engage in service which is pleasing to him with this material machine and be transferred to Lord Kṛṣṇa ’s eternal pastime without difficulties.

So, how will you be interested in being transferred or how will we be interested in returning back to Kṛṣṇa ’s pastime if you don’t know anything about Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa Consciousness is not meant just to create pious people who go on in ignorance, living in the bodily platform, the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and the bhāgavata-dharma is a kind a revolution in the lives of sinful people.

As Lord Caitanya, Lord Nārada muni explained to Vyāsadeva, these books are meant to create a revolution in their consciousness to return people to the attitude of service to the Lord. Which is the real function of the living entity, this is not our function to simply go on trying to provide favorable stimulant to this machine, of course because we are so much integrated with this machine, we identify with it so strongly, it’s pleasures and its pain, are directly considered to be our pain and pleasure and it requires significant progress in self-realization to be able to get over this illusion.

So therefore sādhanā or practice of devotional service is recommended where we regulate our sensual activities and we perform maximum devotional activities. This may appear somewhat mechanical in the beginning, nothing can be done about it until we develop some kind of, or some natural purification. We have to get purified until we develop some natural attraction for Kṛṣṇa, started developing, uncovering is the real sense. That we have within us, natural love for Kṛṣṇa, kṛṣṇa-prema nitya-siddha sādhya kabhu naya, kṛṣṇa-prema is the our eternal perfection, sādhya kabhu naya it’s not something we have to achieve, we have to obtain, what it is, it’s already there.

We have to uncover it; we have to simply awaken it. Its sleeping , its covered up, piled under the garbage of all the material things we’ve been doing, so how can we get to pure, how we can get love of Kṛṣṇa. If we don’t get purified, how could we get purified if we don’t do devotional service. Whether we like it or we don’t like it, whether we have a taste or we don’t have a taste, if we're doing it out of duty for our purification or because we’re doing it because we spontaneously like it. We had to do devotional service to get our self-purified and more the one is pure, the more they like devotional service.

Prabhupāda gave a simple example of a jaundice man, he takes sugar, it taste bitter when you are sick, when your cure it tastes very sweet because sugar is sweet. So this loving relationship between Kṛṣṇa and Yaśoda, between Kṛṣṇa his devotees, simultaneously Kṛṣṇa is pleasing His devotees, he is delivering fallen devas, delivering inimical demons, delivering so many different people at the same time. While He is pleasing His devotees. This would be almost, this would be impossible very clearly said that for anyone else, How they can do it? But for Kṛṣṇa everything, impossible is possible therefore we need to purify ourselves so we do devotional service.

Of course Śrīla Prabhupāda here in Māyāpur he was instructing us that actually the reason he was doing devotional service, he was chanting or he was doing any practice of devotional service, reading, whatever it might be, worshiping the deity, was not with the idea that simply by doing that you must be purified. But then his real secret reason for doing it, his open secret was he was doing it to please his spiritual master. Because by pleasing the devotee, by serving the devotee of Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa is more pleased, and the ultimate purpose is that Kṛṣṇa should be pleased.

When Kṛṣṇa is pleased, then naturaly we get purified, when Kṛṣṇa is pleased that communicates, that’s the real objective is to please Kṛṣṇa, purification is simply the evidence that we’re doing activities which are pleasing to Kṛṣṇa and therefore Kṛṣṇa is purifying us and allowing us to return back to His eternal service, the devotional service.

Therefore it’s also the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, since Kṛṣṇa is playing inconceivable and how can anyone understand Kṛṣṇa, since Kṛṣṇa is covered by his different illusory energies, how can he be understood. He is only understandable by revealing himself. So Kṛṣṇa didn’t reveal himself even to His mother and father for other reasons because he didn’t want to disturb them and their loving service to Him, He didn’t reveal himself.

Once Kṛṣṇa left Vṛndāvana, He didn’t hide it also, but He didn’t kind of exhibit to these demons who He actually was, even the Viśvarūpa He showed to Arjuna. Although another universal form He showed in the court of the Kurus, when they tried to arrest Him. When He went as a diplomatic immunity, Duryodhana thought I got Kṛṣṇa alone, no army, no Pāṇdavas to protect him, I can just kill Him and finish off, so foolish he was, even his shown the Viśvarūpa at last he couldn’t capture Him. Still Duryodhana could not understand Kṛṣṇa ’s actual position.

Therefore we can understand that understanding Kṛṣṇa is also Kṛṣṇa’s mercy!

jñānam ca, apohanaṁ ca, smṛtir, jñānam, apohanaṁ ca (Bg. 15.15) ordinary remembrance, knowledge, and forgetfulness is by Kṛṣṇa, so the ability to know Kṛṣṇa, to remember Kṛṣṇa, not to forget Kṛṣṇa or to forget Kṛṣṇa, that is also given by Lord Kṛṣṇa.

So, without the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, how is it possible to go back to Kṛṣṇa ?

So, in this age of Kali we have so many offensive defects in our character, how is it possible that Kṛṣṇa would be inclined to give us his mercy, by any logical reason. There’s no need for him to do it, we are so fallen, but He completely contradicts all logic and by taking the merciful mood of Rādhārāṇī coming as the golden avatāra Caitanya Mahāprabhu, that which is very difficult to achieve, the devotional service of the Lord, He makes it very easy. And by serving Lord Caitanya’s devotees becomes even more easy, by their blessings one can very easily get devotional service. There’s a verse in Caitanya-Caritāmṛta that says that if you remember Lord Caitanya, that the very difficult, something very difficult to do becomes very easy and then you forget Lord Caitanya, something very easy becomes very difficult.

Therefore, while we here in Lord Caitanya’s holy dhāma trying to serve His pure devotee, His Divine Grace Oṁ Viṣṇupāda Paramahaṁsa Parivrājaka Aṣṭottara Śrī Śrīmad Abhaya Charaṇāravinda Bhaktivedānta Swami Prabhupāda.

If we’re able to, by Srila Prabhupada’s mercy remember Lord Caitanya, then whatever difficult things there may be, difficulty in cooperating, difficulty in serving, difficulty in controlling their senses, or difficulty in building the biggest temple and spiritual city in the world, sublime city. Or whatever the difficulties which are very difficult to do, they can be easily done if we can always remember Lord Caitanya. And even the simplest things, even petty things, which there should be no difficulty, if we forget Lord Caitanya, it will become very difficult.

It’s the nature of Kali-yuga, everything is difficult, fire, forest fire start by bamboos hitting each other, little spark. So therefore, we can understand, to remember Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu, serving His devotees, and never forget the Lord Caitanya. We can also remember that Kṛṣṇa is always God, we shouldn’t have any confusion that gives the Supreme Personality of Godhead and that by engaging fully in his devotional service, we can achieve all perfection and success in life. That itself is actually the highest perfection.

Thank you very much.

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare
Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare

Any Questions?

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Pregunta’s?

Prashna’s

Devotee: You mentioned that by modern science we cannot know our limits. Our limits are clearly defined. Can you explain that?

Jayapatākā Swami: I was being a little bit facetious, that since modern empirical science is always measuring everything, so therefore they’re trying to get it down to the measurement, measuring the star, the light, and trying to figure out. Actually they’re getting more bewildered, the more they are studying, the more they’re find there’s some more they don’t know about. But those that are really intellectuals, high scientist, they’re realizing that, like Einstein, more he discovered, he found out that there must be some intelligence behind this whole thing, so well ordered, so systematic, couldn’t have happened by accident.

But what trickles down to the massive people, science, they’re given a very defined kind off, limited vision of their existence. Life is just this life, you are now… this is who you are, you’re an American, or a German or this is how your supposed to Suit and Tie and this is everything and it’s all drive to work, and everything is supported by scientific evidence, that everything comes from matter.

So, like this, they have a very defined idea of themselves which is actually all not even reality. It all illusory, but when science gets more and more information, then there seem, well now you really have it focused, so I was being a little bit sarcastic, but that people think, they have very clear idea, who they are, materially, we know more materially.

So then Prabhupāda, believe it was his Vyāsa-pūjā, he was mentioning, his offering to Bhaktisiddhānta in Mumbai Gauḍīya Math, how Kali-yuga had described as the most... what’s the exact word, I can’t remember now, but like degraded or wanted the worst of all the degenerate, of all the Yugas, something with that effect, I’m paraphrasing my own words.

Then Śrīla Prabhupāda explained obviously he is not talking about science or about, about scientific development because according to modern we have better health or we have longer life, more facilities, it seems that more people should be materially better off then they were before. At least in terms of sense gratification, at least in terms of some modern facilities and ease of life. But what is it talking about and Prabhupāda elaborated, it is off obviously regarding our spiritual development, that spiritually this is the most difficult and degraded age. So although materially we are getting everything very measured, people are getting more and more information, what they’ll do with all that information they them self don’t know.

But there’s so much information measuring whether its correct or not is another thing, further information how it cancels out the previous. But at this point we have more information available to the common man, but in spite of. Then what it’s done its simply limited the person. ‘This is where I am’ doesn’t actually reveal to them, the real truth or the reality of their existence which is then what I said we’re combination of matter and spirit.

We’re actually spirit but we’re living in this material world so that way we’re combined, not really combined, you can just say we’re there, entangled, doesn’t actually mix, water and oil don’t actually mix. But their just in a contiguous place and we’re entangled, hope that’s alright, any other questions?

Śrīla Prabhupāda ki

Devotees: Jaya!

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam ki

Devotees: Jaya!

Śrī Māyāpur Chandrodaya Mandir ki

Devotees: Jaya!

Gaur Premānande

Devotees: Hari Haribol!