19960921 Caitanya-caritāmṛta Ādi-līlā 7.18-19, Radhastami

THe following is a class given by His Holiness Jayapatakaswami on Radhastami, September 21st 1996 in Wiesbaden Germany. THe class begins with a reading from Chaitanya Caritamrita Adi-Lila chapter 7 verse 18 and 19.

THe internal devotees or potencies are all eternal associates in tHe pastimes of tHe Lord. Only with tHem does tHe Lord advent to propound tHe sankirtan movement, only with tHem does tHe Lord taste tHe mellow of conjugal love, and only with tHem does He distribute tHis love of God to people in general.

Purport : Distinguishing between pure devotees and internal or confidential devotees, Sri Rupa Goswami, in His book Upedeshamrita, traces tHe following gradual process of development. Out of many thousands of karmis, one is better wHen He is situated in perfect Vedic knowledge. Out of many such learned scholars and philosopHers, one who is actually liberated from material bondage is better, and out of many such persons who are actually liberated, one who is a devotee of tHe Supreme Personality of GodHead is considered to be tHe best. Among tHe many such transcendental lovers of GodHead, tHe gopis are tHe best, and among tHe gopis Srimati Radharani… Srimati Radhika is tHe best. Srimati Radhika is very dear to Lord Krishna, and similarly Her ponds, namely, Syama-kunda and Radha-kunda, are also very much dear to tHe Supreme Personality of GodHead.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Ṭhakura comments in His Anubhaṣya that among tHe five tattvas, two are energies (sakti-tattva) and tHe three otHers are energetic (saktiman tattva). Unalloyed and internal devotees are both engaged in tHe favorable culture of Krishna consciousness untinged by philosophical speculation or fruitive activities.

So in tHe tHeology or tHe philosophy of Krishna Consiousness which is very vast,tHere is a five principal tattvas, which are worshipped sometimes as Pancha tattva. THere is tHe supreme Personality of GodHead, who is tHe original person tHen He has His original expansion and tHen He has His incarnation into tHe material world on tHe one side. On tHe otHer side tHen He has His supreme energy, His spiritual energy and tHen has tHe individual spiritual potency of pure devotee. THis is very, even that sounds too complicated, let me furtHer simplify.

Just like you have tHe sun and along tHe sun you have tHe sunlight.So can you conceive of a sun without sunlight? what would be tHe meaning of sun without sunlight? So along with tHe Lord tHere is His energies. Without tHe energy tHe Lord is not complete. So THe Lord and His energy togetHer are tHe complete whole. Actually usually tHere is Krishna and He manifest His energy.

So He has two kinds of, He has basically three types of energy. He has tHe His spiritual potency, which is outside of tHe material world. THen He has tHe material potency which means things we see Here all around us in tHe material world. and tHen in between tHe material and spiritual potency, tHere is marginal potency, which is tHe living entities. That's what we are. We are very small by nature spiritually and if we are not under Krishna’s spiritual potencies Shelter, tHen automatically we become under tHe control of tHe external or material energy..  In tHe upanishads tHis is.. tHe energies are described as

“parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate”

THe Lord has various kinds of Spiritual potencies. Now tHe material energy is also a kind of is also for tHe Lord, It’s a spiritual potency, but tHe material energy has a different function. Her function is to keep tHe souls in tHe material under Her control who are desirous of forgetting about Krishna. Those who want to maintain an independent existence from God or have desired that in tHe past, She creates an illusion of independence. Actually, we can never be independent from God or Krishna because we are all part of Krishna, everything is part of Krishna..Just like, how can tHe sunlight be independent of tHe Sun? THe Lord why does He see, create His energy (not sure) Why do parents have children? THey want to enjoy having children. Whatever tHe happiness of tHe family life is(not sure). So tHe Lord in order to create more and more transcendental circumstances of happiness of enjoyment, He creates different types of energies. now to be tHe king if you have no subjects. Just like if somebody walks and says I am tHe king and you says, you are king of what? I am tHe king. Alright Mr.king , who are your subjects. You know, how many people are in tHe kingdom .. I am not tHe king of anybody..I am just tHe king.. Nobody will take it very seriously .. THey feel that tHe king of thousands of people or millions of people well tHen it has some value.

So to be tHe supreme Lord, if you have no one that you are tHe Lord of tHen, what is tHe meaning. so tHe Lord creates so many different kinds of.. Actually He doesn't create.. He creates something creative those gets destroyed. It's not recommended tHe spikes inside tHe flowers that will be used subtlety. If Somebody gets spiked sooner or later by tHe needles. Say tHis is something is created and had it was brought into existence at some time it will be decomposed and cease to exist in tHis form. In that sense nobody is creative. We always exist.  it's beyond time.. it is not that in some given time we are created and tHen at sometime, we cease to exist. But tHe Lord beyond time. Time is tHe thing of tHe material world. In tHe spiritual world tHere is no time factor. He manifested so many different energies. Some are very powerful energies, who are not different from him, except that tHere is His energy and He is tHe Lord. OtHerwise tHey are both equal but tHeir relationship is different. And we have very smaller energies which we are for serving Here. All are.. Why we are smaller because we only know a little bit. We don’t know everything, we can never know everything that Krishna can know. Just like a small child cannot know everything that tHe parent knows. Until, of course tHe small child can grow and tHen know. But as a child you cannot know. We can never become God. We are always tHe part of tHe Lord. Krishna explains tHis in Bhagavad Gita “mamaivamso jiva-loke jiva-loki sanatanah” That tHe .. That tHe jiva tHe living entity are my part and parcel and tHey are eternal. So Eternally, we are part of Krishna. Now so we know that tHere is different energies of tHe Lord, tHere is spiritual energy, tHe material energy tHen we are also tHe part of minute energy.

So what is Radharani’s position in all of tHis? So Radharani is tHe supreme energy but Her specific function is to give pleasure to Krishna.Just like in tHe material world if a man, in tHe material world a man, tHey like to enjoy tHe company of a beautiful women and tHey have some desire to enjoy a loving relationship with a woman.. so man or woman tHey like tHis relationship. Because in tHe vedanta sutra it is explained, that anything that’s in tHis world exist because it is originally comes from God, from tHe absolute truth.” Janmadasya yathah” But not that what we see Here is exactly tHe same thing that’s in God but it is a reflection, not exactly tHe same. In fact not apart from appearance, tHere is a big difference.. but so wHen tHe supreme Lord, tHe Supreme personality of GodHead Bhagavan. But He wants to enjoy. He also wants to, He originally, He was tHe first that, (not sure) we come after that.. He wants to enjoy . So He from himself, He expands from one He becomes two. Krishna is not tHe material man and Radharani is not tHe material woman.THere is nothing to do with material actually. Although tHe form may look like material man and material… we are imitation or copies but our existence in tHe material world and tHese bodies are completely done. Thats anotHer very big topic, but its completely different. Krishna is not material and neitHer Radharani is material. THerefore tHey are not really like material man or woman. but material men and women look like Krishna and Radha because we are made in tHe image of tHe Supreme person. So tHe Lord expands himself through His energy and togetHer tHey are having loving exchanges. Now Radharani in order to serve Krishna better, She expands Herself into many otHer energies and She goes (not sure)She expands all tHe living entities who all are ultimately, also expansions from Radharani. We are all meant originally to serve Krishna, that’s our eternal nature.

But Krishna in order for tHere to be any happiness tHe service has to be loving and not by definition is voluntary. Right, if some crazy man comes, you know, you read about crazy people all tHe time coming with machine guns and mowing people down and say some crazy person comes into some assembly and says all right. I want all of you to love me or I will shoot you right , He can fear you or I want all you to fear me. Okay that you can say.  But by fear you can’t get people to love you, isn’t it? Love has to be something voluntary, something without any motive, simply has to be very pure. (not sure)you have to serve tHe person, you appreciate tHe person, you love tHe person. So that is tHe relationship that exists in tHe spiritual world is love. It is called Prema or Bhakti.In order to achieve that in Krishna He gives His energies free will. All of us have free will.Because that is tHe very nature of our existence. We have been given that free will. But wHen we have been given free will that means we have tHe right to use it or misuse it. Mostly tHe vast majority of living entities are right now in a loving relationship with Krishna. But a very small fraction of a living entities have some how or anotHer decided to experiment what is like to not to love Krishna or try have some separate existence .and that’s what is our position we are in tHe material world. THis is kind of like a prison house. Very luxurious prison house tHere are various levels of existence.and tHe Lord of course He likes try to liberate people from tHis prison house.

THe whole reason of tHe material world’s existence is an order to give a living entities who opted for some independent existence to eventually throughout tHeir own experience to come around and decide that actually I love Krishna. I want to serve Krishna. I want to go back to Krishna. I don’t want to stay Here. Krishna is very eager to take us back. It's not that He wants us to be Here. Many times we read people say Why tHere is so much suffering? You See Krishna explains in tHe Bhagavad Gita, how He creates tHe material world, He said although I create tHe material world,  although I am tHe, tHe material world is my expan.. is also my energy. it is not separate from me and at tHe same time I am not part of it. I am not within it. So although I am tHe Lord of all living entities and although nothing happens without my permission. At tHe same time see my mystic opulence that everything is going on without my direct intervention. Krishna creates tHe mechanism how things will go by creating law of karma. Giving everybody equal playing field. If you do good to otHers you get good karma, if you do cause pain to otHers or your own body tHen you have to suffer all tHe whole lot of karma. So now in tHe kali yuga people (not sure) lot of bad karma because tHey are doing a lot of bad karma, tHey are causing sufferings to otHers, you are killing tHe animals , tHey are ruining tHe nature. So tHey have to take tHe karma for that so that tHey have to suffer tHe reactions. So krishna doesn’t like tHis. He doesn’t like to see people suffer. But wHen you give people free will and you give tHem okay. THis is tHe laws if you act in tHis way you can be happy. You act in tHis way you suffer so tHen wHen people are misbehaving tHey are suffering. So what you do on that circumstance. He sends, He comes himself and He tries to convince people to follow tHe right path so tHey don’t have to suffer,. He sends His spiritual, His representatives as gurus, PropHets and so on to give systems of religion. So people can avoid tHe suffering. Beginning most tHe laws of nature that He has created  and if we go against it we are forced to suffer. So He doesn’t want us to suffer. He wants us all to be happy but ultimately tHe real happiness is to leave tHe material world and be with him eternally.

So tHere are many processes of yoga or processes of self-realization. But ultimately wHen we are attracted to tHe spiritual happiness. That is a very positive work and most of tHe great seekers in tHe past, tHey were attracted by tHis spiritual happiness even Lord Buddha. He renounced .. What was tHe Buddhas name before? Siddhartha. He renounced everything as prince siddhartha and He went looking for spiritual happiness. He was not happy in spite of having so many young princesses and arrangements but He wasn’t feeling happiness. He wanted spiritual knowledge and spiritual happiness so He went and went to meditate. Bharata Maharaj was anotHer great emperor of India. He left  His entire kingdom and went to tHe forest to seek spiritual happiness. Like that throughout tHe ages, people have gone looking for tHe spiritual happiness. So my dear devotees remember that spiritual happiness is that everyone is looking for that is Srimati Radharani. She is tHe original form. Hare Krishna)

She is tHe form personality of tHe spiritual happiness. She is tHe source of all spirituality. And She is tHe embodiment of pure love for Krishna. She has tHe all kinds of wonderful qualities everyone is looking so for that spiritual happiness. So today we are worshipping Radharani, trying to understand something about Her because She is tHe supreme energy of tHe Lord. Sometimes tHere is a picture you see Radha and Krishna (not sure) one leg is Krishna’s and one is Radha’s.. Integrated form.. Prabhupad liked that form because actually Radha and Krishna although are separate are one and inseparable . But for tHe sake of expanding tHis pastime tHey have one have become. Well since Krishna is tHe supreme Lord and He has got many energies, so otHer energies are doing otHer thing. He has existential energy who are maintaining tHe universes for him. He has got tHe conscious energy, which it gives knowledge acquiring a consciousness to tHe living entities tHese are called Sat-Cit-Ananda. Krishna is known as Satcitananda vigrha. His form is eternal blissful knowledge.So tHe ananda or tHe blissful part is Radharani. It is tHe supreme of tHe energies, so otHer energies are also doing tHe functional activities to keep everything going. So Radharani doesn’t deal with tHe functioning but simply with tHe direct service of tHe Lord and.. And everyone is serving tHe Lord, so that’s why everyone is coming from Her but otHers are taking care of tHe functioning of things. So Radharani’s focus is simply on Krishna, how to make Krishna happy and Krishna reciprocates, He wants to make Radharani happy. So that we can please Radharani, tHen automatically Krishna will be very pleased with us. And Radharani says please bless tHis devotee tHen Krishna will easily bless us without any doubt. It mentioned today that about Radha Kund. Radhakund is a very special holyplace because it is tHe kunda of Radharani and is considered to be non different from Radharani.

In tHe srimad bahagavatam, WHen Krishna was in vrindavan, tHere was a demon called Aristasura who came and attacked Krishna, Aristasura was tHe demon in tHe form of.. what form was it? Form of a bull. Arista sanskrit for bull . So tHis demon was a human of.. human type of who changed His form to a big bull. And as a bull wHen charging Krishna, trying to kill him. Like tHe bull fights in spain and otHer places. But Here tHis was gigantic bull coming and trying to kill Krishna and His friends.WHen Krishna came in tHis world, 5000 years ago . THere was a king at that time who was (not sure) who was allied with various type of evil forces, Magicians, demons and things .. and He requested tHem to find Krishna and kill him. Because He Heard Krishna would be tHe cause of His death . So throughout Krishna’s pastimes in vrindavan, He was being harassed by different demons who take come.. and try to come kill him . So Krishna can never be killed. WHen He comes in tHis world He acts like one of us to some extent. Although He does miraculaous things that we cannot do like He lifting up a mountain with one finger for seven days and things like that. By going out of tHe universe to otHer planets and things. So but wHen Krishna was in vrindavan acting like a cowHerd boy tHen tHese demons would come and attack him and tHen He would reciprocate. Krishna says however you approach me I reciprocate with you. If you approach me with devotion and faith and I will put my trust in you and I will give you my love. If you approach me to kill me, tHen I will reciprocate with you and I will kill you. However you approach Krishna He will reciprocate. So it is recommended we should approach Krishna with devotion tHen He will takes us under His protection and bring us back to him. But tHere are some who tHey don't want to do that. So tHis Aristasura was one of tHe tHem and He tried to kill Krishna.so finally Krishna, He killed tHe Aristasura..

 WHen Krishna kills tHe demons, tHen tHe atma tHe soul leaves tHe body (not sure)demon and enters into tHe body of Krishna and gets moksha or liberation. So wHen tHe supreme Lord, anyone we leave our body thinking of God, tHen we go back to God. So tHe demons wHen tHey killed by God, tHen obivously thinking about Him tHen tHey achieve God. But since tHe demons usually tHey achieve him in tHe impersonal form. That's why those who want to get moksha and merge into tHe Lord,  tHis is not tHe very exalted kind of.. THis is considered tHe lowest of all tHe forms of liberation.Because even tHe demons who are killed by Krishna tHey get that liberation. So tHe devotees devotees tHey don't accept that form of liberation even if Krishna offers.

THere is four otHer types of liberation, living in tHe Same planet of tHe Lord salokya in His spiritual world planets.. no birth.., no creation, no destruction eternally living. Salokya , tHen sarupya having tHe same kind of spiritual form as tHe Lord. Sarsti having tHe opulences of tHe Lord, mystic powers and so many mystic opulences. And samipya to be close to tHe Lord. THese four , devotees accepts for tHe service of tHe Lord. THey can accept. But merging sayujya that moksha tHey don't accept, that form of liberation to become one with tHe Lord and lose your individual existence. So anyway tHis Aristasura was killed by Krishna and liberated. So Radharani and Her Gopis in Vrindavan, tHey have very intricate relationship with Krishna. THey know that Krishna is happy wHen tHey joke with him and say different… WHen Krishna came back, Radharani said don't come near me . I don't want to talk with you, don't come near me. So why? Because you have (not sure)killed a cow., you killed tHe bull..THis is Gohatya.. THis is a very great sin. So because you killed tHe bull which is a male cow, you have committed a great sin that means now you are contaminated. So you have to go to so many holy places like Indra, wHen He can kill tHe brahmana or a cow He had to do tapasya, He had to penance and get purified and tHen only He could.,you see be free from tHe sins.So you have to do some bathing and (not sure) and get purified from tHe sin or how can you talk to a sinful person. You just killed tHe cow. THen Krishna, why I have to go to tHe holy places? If I want all tHe holy places will come Here and so Krishna just.. He just said, Holy places come Here. So from all over tHe universes, all tHe holy places came and assembled tHere. All tHe holy rivers all tHe Ganga, Jamuna, Saraswati, all tHe sacred places.. By bathing in tHese places you get. It is all like a play between Krishna and Radha. Because How Ganga is purified by touching tHe feet of vishnu. And who is Krishna? But vishnu. So for him tHere is no sin actually. But like tHis tHey, tHey having fun with each otHer. So since Krishna is playing tHe part of tHe human. So He is saying okay, you want me to get purified, take a bath. So all tHe holy rivers to come Here and tHen He dug(not sure) in that indentation, wHere Aristasura and Krishna has been fighting back and forth. Krishna grabbed him by tHe horse was pushing tHey dug a indentation, it became like a lake bed. So tHen He dugged that, tHere is a little furtHer dug and He put all those holy waters tHere. And tHen Krishna batHed and came out. Okay! now I am pure now you can talk with me. Now Radharani tHen She became tHe(not sure). Krishna said You should come (not sure), you can also batHe, you can use my lake, I have Here my own personal lake, so you can batHe. And Radha said, No!No! I want to have my own lake. THen I am going to ask you to batHe in my lake. So but I already have all tHe holy place (ahh) rivers in my lake. THen Radharani said to all tHe gopis, I wanted you to immediately dig me a lake. So thousands of thousands of gopis came in tHere, working working with tHeir bare hands and with Somehow or anotHer within a very short time, within just a few minutes tHey dug out a huge lake bed but it is empty, just a hole was tHere in tHe ground. Krishna was amazed how tHey all tHe ladies, tHey all got togetHer,  all tHe gopis tHey,  tHey just dug out tHis massive excavation because tHey are all spiritual potencies. So tHen tHe holy,  tHen Krishna said, well,  I can put tHe water from my lake into yours. So No!No! I don't want your water( audience laughter) . I will be, I will send my gopis to otHer planets, all over tHe universe will bring Ganga from tHe higHer planets,  will bring various will ,will carry and fill tHis lake. So it is like I wanted to do something more special than you for your pleasure. THen Krishna most of tHe.. one of tHe holy.. THe representative of all tHe holy places came and surrendered to Radharani and pleaded. My God! you are tHe supreme energy. Without your pleasure tHere is no way we can ever achieve success in our lives. You are tHe original goddess of fortune. But we all are simply meant for your service. So we don't feel complete if we are not allowed to be in your lake. We want to be in your lake and to serve you. Please don't deprive us of tHis opportunity to serve you.

So because tHey pleaded like that and Sadharani looked to lalitha and tHen She said all right. Because tHey pleaded, So tHen wHen tHey had permission, THen between Shyam kund and Radha kund tHere was a small piece of land that got cut and tHey became a connection and all tHe holy waters came into radha kund. And tHen Radharani invited Krishna to batHe in Her kunda. So that Radha kund is considered tHe most holy of all tHe holy places. And Krishna would regularly come sometime batHe in shyam kund but usually tHey batHe in Radha kund. So like tHis tHere is so many different pastimes of tHe Lord. Now Radharani is worshipped on tHis day of radhastmi. She appeared 15 days, one year 15 days or 15 days younger than krishna? Krishna was tHe previous astami and tHen after that comes Radhastami. Now wHen Radharani was born, She never opened Her eyes, So tHe parents thought She was blind. So tHey thought were very unfortunately tHeir beautiful daughter but She is born blind. Now wHen Krishna appeared in vrindavan in tHis world. He appeared actually was carried to vrindavan. THen Narada muni came to see krishna in vrindavan and saw him tHere in tHe house of Yashodha and nanda maharaj, saw how tHe supreme Lord has come as in tHe baby form. So tHen Narada Muni, He knew that wHenever tHe Lord comes He will always comes with His supreme energy. So He was looking wHere is tHe energy of tHe Lord? She must be Here also. So He went and He looked in Barasana. And He looked throughout tHe different houses. And tHen He found in tHe king vrishbhanu’s house. THere was a beautiful young baby. I never saw some  baby so beautiful golden color like molten gold. Actually She appeared from a lotus. So tHen Narada Muni understood tHis, tHis must be tHe supreme energy must have come to serve Lord Krishna. So THen He came and (not sure) He can fly, (not sure).. Now He came in tHe front door and He saw tHe king Vrishabhanu and He received narada muni as a great spiritual master, great guru gave him a seat and said what brings you Here to my house. No! I have just come Here to wish you well and so we are so grateful for your coming because wHen a spiritual master visits tHe home of a householder tHis purifies tHe house So on.. so wHere are your children? I like to, I will bless your children. So tHey have some older children, tHey brought and He blessed.

Don't you have any young children? THey told that we have one young baby girl but She was born blind. Well! Can I see that girl. So tHey came out with a golden baby and put in tHe lap of Narada Muni. WHen He was holding Radharani He got so much spiritual happiness just by touching Radharani and looking at Her She is so beautiful that He became stunned.  He couldn't move, tears were coming from His eyes, His body was shaking, His Heart was filled with love. He was so much overwHelmed love for Krishna just by touching Radharani. For forty five minutes He was just motionless. Couldn't move, couldn't speak His voice was choked up. THey didn't know what happened. So powerful just tHe touch of Radharani . THen Narada Muni choked very much, voice choked with emotion, He said you don't know how fortunate you are. THis daughter She is going to bring you all kinds of .. how great She is. You don't understand how fortunate you are to have Her in your house. So wHen tHere was tHe occasion of  Krishna’s birth anniversary. That time Kirtida, tHe wife of king vrishabhanu brought Radha tHe baby over to tHe, tHe krishnas house to motHer Yashodhas house. And tHe babies were kept in tHe.. While outside tHey were getting ready, to do tHe sacrifices and ceremonies and decorations and things going on. So tHey put tHe babies in one little nursery room while tHey are readying all tHe outside things. THey do a bathing and different things for tHe baby. So that time Krishna was lying tHere and Radharani was some distance was lying tHere on tHeir little.. on tHeir blanket.. whatever. So tHen Krishna He crawled over to Radharani as a baby. THen He bent over to Radharani and put His face right in front of Radharanis face. At that time Radharani as soon as She could smell Krishna in front of Her She opened Her eyes.

WHen Krishna invited Her let's go down to tHe material world and show our pastime to attract people to come back to tHe spiritual world. THe idea of Krishna showing His pastime, is to show people that tHe spiritual world is not a dull and dry place but it is filled with variety and and wonderful loving, exciting activities. And that's actually wHere we will be happy to be involved with Krishna in tHe spiritual world. So He invites Radharani let's come down into tHe material world and have our pastime tHere. And She said well only, I will come down tHe first person, I will see is you, I don't want to see anyone before I see you. So wHen She comes She stays blind until Krishna comes in front of Her tHen She opens Her eyes and gives Her sight. So tHen tHey came and (not sure)Our daughter, our blind daughter (not sure)... Krishna must have some special power. (not sure), He is just over  Radharani and now. Radhika now Her, She got Her vision back before She was blind. So just by observing radha..Radhastami, observing tHe festival to Radharani, one gets very many many blessings. THis is worth more than a hundreds thousands ekadasHis to observe radhastami. THere is many glories mentioned in Padma purana different puranas about observation of of ..worshipping Radharani on radhastami. See you already fortunate to be celebrating radhastami, remembrance of Radharani. THe way to please Radharani is actually to cultivate our devotion to Krishna.

Actually is I am very inspired also to Hear that tHis (not sure)Devotees have decided to make a project. A temple and a kitcHen for Radha and Krishna and Gaura Nitai which is a very special offering for tHe pleasure and practice. I don't.. I just Heard about it. .. I am not seen anything but I think that tHey have put up some pictures tHey like to show. THis is tHe one of tHe special services we can do in tHis world, is to make a permanent facility for worshipping tHe Lord. Here it's already so crowded devotees are just barely fitting into tHeir rooms. So tHey have a permanent facility over Here, very nice service for Radharani and Krishna. One otHer thing happened is after that Narada Muni He wanted to see radha..  (Not sure)Baby ... He wanted to.. He wanted to see tHe supreme energy and Her more fully as a young girl. So He was in tHe forest of vrindavan tHere, praying to Her to reveal Herself and tHen although She was present before everyone else as a baby Her along with Her energies, tHe  sakHis appeared to Narada Muni. And Narada Muni begged Her for devotion to Lord Krishna, pure devotion. So many times people tHey don't understand wHen tHey see tHey sometimes we Hear people say oh.. sometimes in Christian missionaries in India, tHey tell tHe people, why you worship Krishna, He is a thief, He steals butter. You see wHere is tHe supreme Lord He owns everything so wHere’s tHe question stealing butte anyway. But apart from that just to give happiness to tHe neighbors, He goes and plays around as a young child, He takes some butter and feeds to tHe monkeys. THese monkeys are great sages who have taken birth as monkeys to get some butter from tHe hand of tHe supreme Lord.

THis is not tHeft, tHese are child activities, done just so that people have something to talk about Krishna and creates some excitement in tHe (not sure) with Krishna. In fact that even tHe devotees very affectionately refer to Krishna as makhana chora. With purified Heart we start to become attracted that something is very special about all tHese things, something very spiritual and very inner satisfying to tHe Heart, so that attraction for Krishna grows. THen it gives us wHen Krishna is very pleased to take us back to serve him eternally. That is His sublime program.But generally we are not pure enough to really appreciate tHe full glories of Krishna and Radha. So first we need to study about Krishna’s potencies (not sure) How great Krishna is? How He creates tHe material world? How tHe whole universal form, all tHe energies, tHe nature is all coming from tHe Lord? How He incarnates in different yugas and different pastimes with different devotees?  So we start to appreciate tHe greatness of tHe supreme personality of GodHead. How is our well wiSher? How He wants us to be liberated from tHe material bondage? And tHen finally that form of Krishna is  tHe most esoteric.

THis tHe most confidential form. Prabhupada explains that Krishna has got His majestic form known as Narayana and He has His original form known as Krishna. So just like wHen you go to see a judge in tHe high court or supreme court . THe judge Sometime like in England tHey wear tHe big white wig and things. In different places, tHey were different costumes or uniforms. But wHen tHey come into court people stand up, tHey say my Lord.. your honor.. tHere’s some formalities. WHen tHe judge is in His seat everyone has to respect him. So like that wHen tHe supreme Lord is in His majestic form His Narayana or Vishnu, tHen Here we respect with… His formal dealings are kept with him.. Fear, respect, majesty all tHese kinds of moods are very prominent in that with that form of tHe Lord. That’s tHe form most people think about tHe supreme Lord, tHe supreme powerful but just like tHe judge wHen He goes home and night tHen He doesn’t have to work, He’s got tHe wife and kids and brotHers, friends. (not sure)… whatever tHe things.. tHere are so many different things tHey do. THe wife may come and give him some lemonade and something.. a child may sit on His lap. But in tHe court tHe child can’t sit on tHe lap, tHe grand child can’t sit on tHe lap. In tHe house tHey can. So Prabhupad explains that tHe whole Vrindavana , Vaikunta is a majestic aspect and Golok vrindavan is informal aspect. WHere everything tHere is done on pure love, tHere is no harm, no reverence, no fear, is complete just love. But to appreciate Krishna’s loving pastimes for us, from our position it's harder (not sure) First we go and understand who Krishna is tHen we are gonna appreciate His greatness. That although He is tHe Lord of everything He has His very personal, gentle, loving personality. And that is brought out. You see Krishna without Radharani you don’t notice him. So He is not so easy to see. WHen tHe pastime of Radha and Krishna. Radha brings out tHe best in Krishna because of Her love for Krishna. Everything becomes revealed.So I thank all of you for coming Here on tHis occasion of Radhastmi. I am very happy to be Here. Please wHen we chant, HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA (everyone togetHer)HARE HARE HARE RAM HARE RAM RAM RAM HARE HARE. Hare is also calling Radha. And Krishna is Krishna. So Hare Krishna is like saying RadhaKrishna RadhaKrishna. So Radharani is also tHere. So get tHe blessings of Radharani today and  chant HareKrishna very carefully your whole life.Thank you. Hare Krishna! (audience saying Hare Krishna)So any question?Yes!

Devotee: (Question)(not sure)

HH Jayapataka Swami: It’s not that .. it is not that it is recommended that if you want to get to tHe Lord sooner you should ( Not sure) No! I am, I am explaining. Don't cut me in tHe middle. THere are some cases like that were some like Jay, Vijay tHey were cursed. THey were tHe gatekeepers of tHe spiritual world and tHey were cursed to come in tHe material world. So tHen tHey are given tHe choice, you could serve tHe Lord as a devotee for seven births or you could come as a demon and be killed by tHe Lord in three different occasions and tHen return back to tHe spiritual world to your service. So tHey want to get back to tHeir position quicker. So tHey accepted three births as tHe demons ratHer than seven. So that those are very special unique cases of people as you say who are cursed and tHey want to get back quicker. In tHe otHer words tHey are feeling so much separation from Krishna that are far should be separated from him for more births is unbearable, tHey would ratHer take a Hellish birth, demon birth and come back to Krishna quicker because of tHeir love for Krishna. It seems like a contradiction, that's because tHey are already in tHe spiritual vicinity and tHey want go back tHere.

Now anyway that someone is fully conscious about Krishna will lead one to Krishna. But if one is approaching Krishna in a favorable way. Even if one is only partial conscious of Krishna. That partial consciousness will lead one to Krishna. But if one is envious about Krishna that means He is thinking about Krishna but in a negative sense. THe Karma for tHe(result), reaction for that is generally going to Hell and be puniShed. But if someone even negatively, is completely absorbed in Krishna. Like Kamsa He was always think about Krishna..day, night, His dreams. He was thinking of Krishna all tHe time. So someone like that who is always, thinking about Krishna even it  was negative because He was fully absorbed in Krishna He also got purified. But tHe Acharyas tHe great spiritual masters recommend that tHis is not tHe process we should follow. Because otHer kings who like occasionally went negative against Krishna, and tHe otHer time tHey were just doing tHeir material sense gratification. WHen tHey die tHey went to Hell and were puniShed. Only those who are fully absorbed in fear or hatred of Krishna like Sisupal was envious of Krishna and Kamsa was fearful of Krishna. Unless you are fully absorbed tHe negative doesn't work but even if you are partially absorbed favorably that works very effectively. So tHerefore it is recommended we should worship tHe Lord in tHe favorable mood. But just to highlight how tHe rememberence of tHe Lord is all auspicious. Even those who will get absorbed in tHe Lord negatively, tHey also get tHe blessing because He is all auspicious. But as far as for tHe devotees thats not tHe path we should follow because thats not pleasing to tHe Lord. Well! we serve him favorably that is pleasing. (Not sure)

Devotee(Question): As you have explained that Hare means internal energy of Krishna( not sure))Radha. What does Hare Rama means? Is it that Radha or Balaram or Sita Ram?

HH Jayapataka Swami:  Rama has many meanings. Hare literally means tHe energy of so you say Hare Krishna Krishna energy of Krishna. Energy of Krishna is Radha. Krishna one of Krishna's name is also Rama. Because He is known like Radha Raman.So from one point of view Rama can also mean Krishna. But Rama also means Ragupati Rama. THen tHere would be Sita ram. Rama also can be Parushuram. Rama can be Balaram. But Balaram is Revati and Varuni. Basically Rama is tHe name for tHe supreme Lord. And Hare means tHe energy. So wHetHer you consider Rama, tHe name as one of Krishna name. Hare is addressing that or as one of tHe otHer expansions of Krishna is Rama. It brings tHe similar effect. In tHe kali yuga it is recommended we chant tHe 16 names Hare Krishna Hare Rama mantra. In tHe Kali-santarana Upanishad, tHis will purify us of all tHe contamination of kali yuga.It is HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE (iti sodasakam namnam kali-kalmasa-nasanam natah parataropayah sarva-vedesu drsyate ) Throughout all tHe vedas tHis is confirmed. WHetHer you see in tHe skanda purana also tHere mentions tHe chant tHe names of hari, tHe brihadnarayana purana, agni purana, all tHe puranas. Actually tHe puranas, purana means in tHe vedas you call ithihasam puranam ca, that tHe Ithihasa or tHe Histories of tHe universes are given in tHe puranas. Purana means History or ancient, old.

WHen Max Muller from Germany was a christian missionary was sent to India to convert tHe Hindus. He found that tHe Brahmanas were giving him a hard time.. So He wrote some letters back to a fellow priest in Germany. And He said that I am going to learn Sanskrit and i am going to translate Sanskrit in such a way into German and English. That I will try to undermine tHe Brahmanas. Just like in English or western language, an idol according to christian tHeology is a false god. But in tHe vedas it is said that you can establish a form of tHe Lord and worship that deity. And that deity is known as arca vigrah or worshipable deity of tHe Lord, tHe worshipable form. But Max Muller translated as idol. THe puranas given as in tHe ancient History of tHe Lord and tHe universe. And tHis literal translation of puranas will be History. But in tHe western dictionary a myth is a kind of a folk story which is a imaginary thing which is not verified, not very factual, is kind of an imagined or.. Mythology is not considered to be very reliable. It is considered some a myth means like almost like a bordering and fiction. Some tales without any real, if you were to say that tHe stories in tHe Quran were myth tHen from Iran and otHer places you  (not sure) you would have to be hiding like a (not sure). But tHis was translated by Max Muller He translated. He translated puranas as mythology.So what happened all educated Hindus tHey tHis tradition has been tHere that tHe Murti or arca vigrah.. arca ..is a idol and tHe puranas tHey are called mythologies. Now for tHem tHey dont see any (not sure)because that's tHe way tHey were taught in school.THis is tHe right translation. But now that we know what is Sanskrit? what is English. We can see tHis a horrible translation.. THis was and even Max Muller wrote, His letters are now public domain. Because now tHis was a hundred years before tHis happened, now all those letters are revealed and He said tHis is my plot, tHis is my strategy but it didnt work because people didn't know english. If you translate like that, tHey still in tHeir mind tHey are just thinking worshipable deity, purana so that you give tHem a name but furtHer only it works (not sure)people who knows english. What is tHe idol? what is tHe mythology?  But see Here in tHe west if you call puranas is a mythology, people get a wrong idea. If you call tHe deity as a idols tHey get a wrong idea. THe deity is not a idol, idol is a bad word for tHe west. Mythology is a bad word. For tHe first time i was preaching in Canada to tHe Hindu, our congregation. i didn't know all tHis because i have been living in India 26 years. I am also Indian citizen. So I know all tHese things now but that time, I was so, I was angry why tHey are calling mythology. Now I understand it is not anybody’s fault. THere is a trick of tHe previous missionaries to try to confuse (not sure). But actually tHe words are not a good word in tHe west for our.. our preaching. Mythology is a bad word. Prabhupad never used that word, He always used tHe word tHe History. Puranas are History we don’t take it as a myth, we take it as a fact. All tHese things happen sometimes in tHe past. And tHis is recorded in tHe vedas tHey are true stories. WHere myth is like may be true maybe not true. But we don’t take it as myth it is a true fact. Thats our faith,  to die for it.

Devotee: One simple Question?

HH Jayapataka Swami: Yes!

Devotee: You said that WHen Radharani was born She was very beautiful. And very pretty and She was(not sure)like gopi. But tHey come to Krishna people use altogetHer a different color tHey think dark complexion and so on..

HH Jayapataka Swami: Yes

Devotee: Is tHere any reason why difference between tHe two?

HH Jayapataka Swami: Krishna is also beautiful.

Devotee: Yeah

HH Jayapataka Swami: He is called Shyama Sundara(blackish beautiful). You see Krishna is not tHe black you see in tHe material world because He is effulgent. He is a glowing in tHe dark even. That’s His original color. Like tHe color of a rain cloud blueish, blackish is a similar is what tHey say closest thing we see in tHe material world. But that actually Krishna cannot be exactly be compared with any material color.. But that’s tHe nearest thing that people could find to give some kind of reference point.  That’s in.. That’s in fact Vishnu is also tHe similar color. Vishnu, Narayana, Krishna, Ramachandra is a green color and Narasinga Dev is white or also golden.OtHer avatars are different colors but tHere is Krishna(not sure) original color.

Devotee: (not sure)

HH Jayapataka Swami: I am waiting for  Paramatama to come and take over tHe show.

 (not sure)one time tHere was in America tHere was Prabhupad is giving tHe lecture tHere was one Afro-American and He was very (not sure) Krishna is black and tHe God is black. And tHen prabhupad said but not black like you.(everyone laughter). He is a transcendental blackish. You should not think Krishna as tHe material or even Radharani  (not sure) golden, not that only tHe golden, all tHe colors are beautiful in tHe right, in tHe spiritual sense. But that’s tHe Radharani's color She is a golden color. I don’t ..Since Krishna has originally tHis color, tHere is no question why He has that color? THis is always His color...and it was always Radharani's color. It's just a striking comparitive  contrast between tHe two. But tHe different Gopis with Radharani tHey are all different colors. And Balaram, He is white, Whitish. So tHere's tHe Lord appears in Muti color, multi forms, even all tHe different species He appears. (Not sure)

In Mayapur we are constructing a city, spiritual city and we have people from Germany and from America and from Africa and from Australia and from all over India and all over tHe world, Russia. We welcome devotees to come and Help us build tHe spiritual city tHere. We are building tHe Vedic planetarium. Srila Harikesa swami is very..is director for tHe development committee, is also tHe GBC Here in Germany. Sometimes wHen tHere is more time, you can decide. I would like to invite you also to come to Mayapur. I am also Here. (Not sure) minister for congregational preaching. THis afternoon we gave a short seminar to tHe congregation and devotees of (not sure)for expanding congregational preaching. Sacinandan Maharaj is Helping as regional coordinator for congregational preaching and He asked me to come Here. After tHe conference is over in fulland (not sure) tHen I will be going back to tHe (not sure) to give a seminar tHere also. We also want to encourage everyone to expand tHe congregational preaching. People should practice Krishna consciousness from tHeir home. My secretary for tHis trip is Kaunteya Das. He is also tHe editor for congregational preaching journal,  which He has brought some copies if anyone's interested in finding about tHis latest ideas about congregational preaching. He can tell you something about that how to get tHis magazine.

Devotee:(not sure)

HH Jayapataka Swami: I think everybody can kind of move tHis side now , so tHey can see what.. what’s tHey are gonna present,  (not sure). THis is being presented today to get tHe blessings of Radharani.