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19841230 Caitanya-caritāmṛta Madhya-līlā 19.1-15

30 Dec 1984|English|Caitanya-caritāmṛta|Śrī Māyāpur, India

 

 

(jaya) śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu nityānanda

śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda

The following is a lecture given by His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami on December 30th 1984. The class begins with a reading from the Śrī Chaitanya caritāmṛta Madhya līlā chapter 19, verse 1 to 5.

(jaya) śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu nityānanda

śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda

vṛndāvanīyāṁ rasa-keli-vārtāṁ

kālena luptāṁ nija-śaktim utkaḥ

sañcārya rūpe vyatanot punaḥ sa

prabhur vidhau prāg iva loka-sṛṣṭim

Chaitanya caritāmṛta madhya-līlā chapter 19 text 1

Translation:

Before the creation of this cosmic manifestation, the Lord enlightened the heart of Lord Brahmā with the details of the creation and manifested the Vedic knowledge. In exactly the same way, the Lord, being anxious to revive the Vṛndāvana pastimes of Lord Kṛṣṇa, impregnated the heart of Rūpa Gosvāmī with spiritual potency. By this potency, Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī could revive the activities of Kṛṣṇa in Vṛndāvana, activities almost lost to memory. In this way, He spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness throughout the world.

jaya jaya śrī-caitanya jaya nityānanda

jayādvaita-candra jaya gaura-bhakta-vṛnda

jaya jaya śrī-caitanya jaya nityānanda

jayādvaita-candra jaya gaura-bhakta-vṛnda

[Devotees repeats with Guru Maharaja]

All glories to Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu!

All glories to Lord Nityānanda!

All glories to Advaitacandra!

all glories to all the devotees of the Lord!

 

śrī-rūpa-sanātana rahe rāmakeli-grāme

prabhure miliyā gelā āpana-bhavane

After meeting Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu in the village of Rāmakeli, the brothers Rūpa and Sanātana returned to their homes.

dui-bhāi viṣaya-tyāgera upāya sṛjila

bahu-dhana diyā dui brāhmaṇe varila

dui-bhāi viṣaya-tyāgera upāya sṛjila

bahu-dhana diyā dui brāhmaṇe varila

The two brothers devised a means whereby they could give up their material activities. For this purpose, they appointed two brāhmaṇas and paid them a large amount of money.

kṛṣṇa-mantre karāila dui puraścaraṇa

acirāt pāibāre caitanya-caraṇa

The brāhmaṇas performed religious ceremonies and chanted the holy name of Kṛṣṇa so that the two brothers might attain shelter at the lotus feet of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu very soon.

Purport by Śrīla Prabhupāda:

A puraścaraṇa is a ritualistic ceremony performed under the guidance of an expert spiritual master or a brāhmaṇa. It is performed for the fulfillment of certain desires. One rises early in the morning, chants the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, performs arcana by the ārati ceremony and worships the Deities. These activities are described in Madhya-līlā, fifteenth chapter, verse 108.

His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami: The Vaiṣṇava of cyclopedia of spiritual practices which were compiling has a section under the Purushcarana ceremonies which gṛhasthas are supposed to perform at different times during the progress of their gṛhastha activities and at different times during the development of a child.

Of course, the chanting of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra and performing worship to Vishnu is the basic system but that one does so with a specific intention of some spiritual objective this shouldn't be confused with some ritualistic activity which is performed for some material person some material fruitive desire or for other type of non-devotional desires but these are performed by Vaiṣṇavas with the purpose of helping one to advance in the process of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

The introductory or the in vocational verse which is at the beginning of every chapter of the Chaitanya caritāmṛta is special Sanskrit verse composed by Krishna das kavirāj which gives the essence of that particular chapter and this verse of this 19th chapter he reveals the inner secret behind Lord Chaitanya mahāprabhu's relationship with Śrīla Rūpa Goswami he also is revealing what is the actual purpose to Śrīla Rūpa Goswami's activities that not only did Lord Chaitanya did Lord Chaitanya come simply for delivering the Fallen Souls from birth and death but his inner secret was to recreate the pastimes of Vṛndāvana to keep that specific process of devotional service alive in the world.

Due to the influence of Kali Yuga that principle of devotional service as it was practiced in Vṛndāvana had become almost lost.

So especially the two brothers Rūpa and Sanātana had both been instructed in different ways to establish the system of worshipping Kṛṣṇa as it was performed by the residents of Brindavan. This is very important because this is a very esoteric a very inner secret of Lord Caitanya's pastimes that the process of chanting

Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare,

Hare Ram Hare Rāma Rāma Hare Hare

is performed not in the ritualistic sense by the followers of Lord Caitanya neither to the followers of Lord Chaitanya chant Hare Kṛṣṇa simply for liberation but their chanting in the mood of the residents of Brindavana.

Lord Caitanya said that of all the devotees of the Lord you see in the spiritual world in heaven on earth everywhere of all the devotees that those devotees of Brindavan the place where Kṛṣṇa performed his childhood pastimes as the son cowherd son of mother Yaśodā and Nanda Mahārāja that particular mood of devotional service that those vrajawasis are residents of Brindavan performed was so exquisite was so wonderful that it is incomparable is the best.

So Kṛṣṇa when He's come as a devotee as Chaitanya Mahāprabhu His inner purpose He wants to keep that pure type of devotional service alive in the world and to rather bring more and more people into that and to those Brindavan past times.

So, bringing newer and newer devotees more devotees to worship Kṛṣṇa that type of mood of trying to satisfy Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu's desire for expanding Kṛṣṇa's pastimes this is not a material desire we shouldn't confuse it with something material.

That Rūpa goswami explained that something which is beneficial for the devotional service of the Lord should never be rejected by taking it to be material.

Here Rūpa and Sanātana they had money but they use their money to try to see how they could reach Kṛṣṇa. This is the actual purpose if someone has any material facility, they should think how to use this facility in such a way that ultimately, I can achieve the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa.

Otherwise having wealth becomes just like putting what they say concrete necktie on and going for a swim you sink right

Even I believe the Christian the Bible says something like it's harder for elephant to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go back to Godhead or something like that.

Of course, if you don't know pure devotional service. If a person is a pure devotee like the residents of Brindavana for them their only property is Kṛṣṇa they have nothing else whatever they have they considered to be Kṛṣṇa's and they consider their real property that is Kṛṣṇa. That they are Kṛṣṇa's and Kṛṣṇa is theirs. This type of intimate relationship is especially seen in Brindavana, where the devotee totally surrenders to Kṛṣṇa I am yours and they feel that Kṛṣṇa is theirs and Kṛṣṇa in fact He becomes purchased by their pure love and devotion.

Just as Chaitanya Mahāprabhu He told śrīvāsa who had that mood of pure devotion.

He said that śrīvāsa if you want to you can take Me in the market and sell Me and He said let all the devotees know that I belong to Śrīvas he can do whatever he wants with Me if he wants to put Me up for sale he can do that because I totally belonged to him he has purchased Me with his pure devotion.

So, in this way we should understand that by giving their thoughts their words their deeds their heart everything to Kṛṣṇa the residents of Brindavan in exchange Kṛṣṇa gave Himself and He said that very humbly very apologetically that I am very sorry that I don't have anything worthy of giving you in repayment for your love. I have nothing suitable you see He didn't consider even giving Himself as being adequate repayment for the love they gave Him that is Kṛṣṇa's wonderful characteristic so instead He's apologizing you have to be satisfied with Me you see and with your pure love because I have nothing else that I can give you.

So Kṛṣṇa actually became so indebted but the devotees they don't think like that the devotees are always thinking how I can please Kṛṣṇa more and more you see. In this way there's a competition who can please Kṛṣṇa.

So here the brothers we can all from these verses that their secret purpose that Lord Chaitanya has planned for them is through them he wanted to re-establish what is the worship of Kṛṣṇa in Brindavan?

That mood that essence that He wanted to preserve in the world that is the ecstatic principle you see because those Vrindavan pastimes are totally under the Dominion of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī.

Just as Kṛṣṇa is the Iswara, Brajeshwar the master of Brindavan the Brijeshwari is Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī and She is arranging all the services to Lord Kṛṣṇa in such a way that a Kṛṣṇa may be satisfied through that devotional service.

In this way Kṛṣṇa Chaitanya mahāprabhu is bringing into the world this understanding of Rādhā Kṛṣṇa worship understanding of pure devotion in the mood of Vrindavana you see.

Now this we understood that there are other moods just like their mood of worshiping Rāma Chandra in Ayodhyā as the greatest the king is Raghupati Rāghava Rajaram this is a particular mood.

When you go if you go to Ayodhyā in India and you get this there's that particular flavor to that worship even when you hear the songs you know Jai Sitaram, Jai Hanumān Raghupati rāghava rajaram patita pavan SitaRam there's a certain flavor to that and hearing the pastime that's the specific mood of devotion of the devotees there which is filled with the servitude type of reserved friendship yet the Lord is very protecting and He Has those particular qualities and the Lord's personal relationship or deep love for His consort Sītā that gives a little bit of an insight into some of the more intimate pastimes. But it was you see not He was not so available He's not so approachable because He is the king.

You want to approach the president you have to go a little bit in the reserved way some distance is there of course He was more approachable than Nārāyaṇa He came down to the forest and He was with his monkey friends and like that definitely He more approachable He's as a king and the world so He's that type of Vedic King anyone can approach Him.

But a particular mood but Kṛṣṇa in Brindavana is cowherd boy He was the most approachable.

This way Kuntī Devī when she prays to Kṛṣṇa she praised Nanda kumāra calls him as the the gopa Nanda Gopa kumāra kumāra there's one śloka is there in Bhāgavatam she prays to Him that you are the cowherd boy the son of mother Nanda in other words You're very approachable it's very easy to come to You because You're already simple like a cowherd boy you know in the city when you try to preach people are generally very cold you go out in the country a little bit they walk they warm up a little bit they're not might have experienced that.

Even here in America in India is very much preserved that type of warmth in the village you see if you go in someone's village that the person empty is whole house outside please come and stay in my house stay in the room here you come in its you feel embarrassed that they'll leave their master bedroom and say you know you're the guest you have to stay here you take meals they won't eat until after you've all do all the guests have been fed you see when even now in India sometimes in the cities you don't always get as spontaneous and of course is still there in India but you can see in the villages it's there much more.

So, they are Kṛṣṇa He was as a cowherd boy in Vṛndāvana He was very approachable He is very compassionate like that so even the Kuntī Devī although she's His aunty from his relation as with Devakī and Vāsudeva she's addressing Him as the son of the darling of Nanda Mahārāja trying to get His His more compassion inside - please be very favorably disposed to what I'm about to say - my request to You remember You're the cowherd boy You're very approachable very easy.

So that mood of Brindavan worship is not based on a very formal relationship as we find to some extent in Lord Rāma's pastime but not so much when especially we find totally in the worship of Lakṣmī and Narayan is a very formal worship you see which is an awe and reverence and appreciation of the glory and majesty and opulence’s and the power of the Lord.

But in the pastimes of Brindavan the appreciation more of the Lord's own personal beauty His characteristics His qualities His pastimes His name His form all of the dealings of the Lord these are the focal point and the devotees they worship the Lord with their enthusiasm with their pure devotion with their dedication and with their selfless love offered to the lotus feet of the Lord and all reverence doesn't play a vide doesn't play much a part of those past doesn't play any part at all in relationship to Kṛṣṇa. It's a very intimate.

So, these pastimes were to be perpetuated by Rūpa and sanātan mission realized and how important they are that they've been given the actual most secret and inner desire of Lord Chaitanya has been given to these two brothers to preserve and to expand in the world.

So therefore when we approached Lord Chaitanya we want to approach Rādhā Kṛṣṇa worship we go through the six goswami's because they hold the key they've been given the right by Lord Caitanya to give that understanding in that worship so we approach Brindavana and we approach the worship of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa or we approach our own private practice of Kṛṣṇa consciousness through the instructions and teachings of śrī rūpa and sanātana goswami and other six goswami’s who are following and assisting them.

śrī-rūpa-gosāñi tabe naukāte bhariyā

āpanāra ghare āilā bahu-dhana lañā

At this time, Śrī Rūpa Gosvāmī returned home, taking with him large quantities of riches loaded in boats.

brāhmaṇa-vaiṣṇave dilā tāra ardha-dhane

eka cauṭhi dhana dilā kuṭumba-bharaṇe

Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī divided the wealth that he brought back home. He gave fifty percent in charity to brāhmaṇas and Vaiṣṇavas and twenty-five percent to his relatives.

Purport:

This is a practical example of how one should divide his money and retire from household life. Fifty percent of one’s money should be distributed to qualified and pure devotees of the Lord. Twenty-five percent may be given to family members, and twenty-five percent may be kept for personal use in case of emergency.

So, this you can see how much Śrīla Rūpa goswami is a standard Sanātana goswami the six goswami's are standards for our devotional service.

Even as a gṛhastha when he retired so he divided his money in this way 50% , 25% and 25% and this is become the standard also in the International Society for Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Śrīla Prabhupāda said that if somebody strictly follows by this principle then practically speaking, they are economically on the same level as a sannyāsī that they are you combine that with of course the other devotional practices and they become like a gṛhastha brahmacārī they become totally above the laws of karma.

This is very important because we don't want to get

Jai Nitāi Gaura, Jai Jagannath, Subadra, Balarāma ki

Devotees: Jai.

we don't want to go so far in devotional service dedicating our life to the service of guru and Kṛṣṇa and then to become entangled within fruitive activities and somehow be waylaid from going back to home back to Godhead from achieving pure devotional service.

So this actually this is not much if you consider that in developing nations sometimes they charge 90 percent income tax 70 percent income tax even in America I think in the upper levels it's 70 percent so here it's 50 percent you see but that's not just being that even there said that they give to qualified and pure devotees of the Lord for the purpose of Kṛṣṇa consciousness 25 percent for family members and 25 percent in case of emergency means gṛhastha should have some can have some in any case some emergency fund if he's an earning gṛhastha then they may can have some emergency fund.

Of course, Rūpa and Sanātana were acting as kshatriyas in a sense because they were ministers in the government although they were born in Brahmin families but they are acting as minister. Therefore, when they did the pūjā and other things they brought in a Brāhmaṇa because they were considering obviously that well they were not acting as brāhmaṇas and society someone who is acting as a brāhmaṇa although they were in the higher sense.

Lord Chaitanya accepted them as pure Vaiṣṇava more exalted than a brāhmaṇa but for their spiritual practices they would bring in some brāhmaṇas because they were mainly engaged at that time in their administration and naturally as administrators, they were making some money.

You see someone's a prime minister you get money it's a lucrative occupation even in those days even today you see of course what normally these polity or politician does when they get money is, they just use it for their own sense gratification.

But here Rūpa and Sanātana they you know someone may say anything they may say they're very devoted and everything but the practical thing what do you do with your money you see some money is very dear it's just like one's life when the money goes they definitely people feel that so what do they do if they're giving the money to Kṛṣṇa that means that they're hard even entertainment someone might be a professional tennis player or something you see is.

Nowadays is all a business you see it's not even a professional tennis player you can't call it a privilege sport although tennis is a privilege sport but if you're making hundreds of millions of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars then well it’s an entertainment.

If they use that money for Kṛṣṇa then people are foolish enough to give money to see someone beet the ball around on over a net you see and if they're willing to give you the money for doing that and if you use it for Kṛṣṇa well then it's dovetailed is something which has as the purpose.

Prabhupāda didn't tell George Harrison or others to give up their profession as musicians that would be artificial but to rather use their abilities somehow another to expand the Kṛṣṇa conscious movement to serve Kṛṣṇa.

So here Rūpa goswami he's showing practically putting his energy his money where his affection is where his devotion lies.

daṇḍa-bandha lāgi’ cauṭhi sañcaya karilā

bhāla-bhāla vipra-sthāne sthāpya rākhilā

daṇḍa-bandha lāgi’ cauṭhi sañcaya karilā

bhāla-bhāla vipra-sthāne sthāpya rākhilā

 

He kept one-fourth of his wealth with a respectable brāhmaṇa. He kept this for his personal safety because he was expecting some legal complications.

He knew there would be trouble when he left the Emperor. But just see in those days it wasn't even there's not banks but he kept as wealth with a respectable brāhmaṇa because the brāhmaṇa is someone who's honest so someone's the respectable brāhmaṇa you could trust them at least in those days respectable brāhmaṇa meant that he was the respectable brāhmaṇa not a so-called brāhmaṇa. So, a real brāhmaṇa you can trust.

In fact, even the Mohammedan rulers in India during the time of the Mughal rule they would normally keep as their ministers and as their landlords they would keep Hindus. This way there's because they couldn't trust their own Muhammadans because the nature of historically the muhammadans if they get any power, they make a power base and then do a revolt and try to even they kill their own father it happened many times.

So, they normally they they would keep the power personally directly under them and they would they could trust the later point brāhmaṇas as the land lords or and then have them do the tax collecting and everything and then they'd back him up with the central army but then that way they found that.

That's why in India there wasn't as except for a few of the more fanatical mogul rulers there wasn't a wide spread conversion because once you converted them into Muslims they became more difficult to handle became more wild because whatever good qualities they had you know many of them would go as they became meat-eaters and violent and everything so it was only in the end they became a little fanatical but even at the end there's only about 20% were converted plus the people wouldn't also convert they didn't want to change their religion could only be done by force but any it's a historical fact that they did put their trust.

And when the British conquered India and other things like that it was who is the Mohammedan general who would betray the king in many of these cases and they can be they could be bought off because for some reason they're a little more materialistic they don't have that same I don't want to say anything offensive but just the historically that we've seen that they're a little bit lacking as much of a type of Brahminical culture in their particular philosophy.

So it's not unusual here that someone would put their faith in a respectable Brāhmaṇa even the muhammadans did that they're more reliable. So people become very Brahminical we qualified in the Kṛṣṇa conscious movement then they'll become more and more reliable and the more that their uncultured naturally then you cannot depend upon them so this why it's very important to promote the Brahminical culture by pure living pure habits by devotional service then one becomes very respectable and really reliable go in any religion that person who is a devotee of the Lord he's definitely going to be more dependable than someone who is a non-devotee.

gauḍe rākhila mudrā daśa-hājāre

sanātana vyaya kare, rākhe mudi-ghare

He deposited ten thousand coins, which were later spent by Śrī Sanātana Gosvāmī, in the custody of a local Bengali grocer.

śrī-rūpa śunila prabhura nīlādri-gamana

vana-pathe yābena prabhu śrī-vṛndāvana

 

Śrī Rūpa Gosvāmī heard that Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu had returned to Jagannātha Purī and was preparing to go to Vṛndāvana through the forest.

rūpa-gosāñi nīlācale pāṭhāila dui-jana

prabhu yabe vṛndāvana karena gamana

Śrī Rūpa Gosvāmī sent two people to Jagannātha Purī to find out when Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu would depart for Vṛndāvana.

 

śīghra āsi’ more tāṅra dibā samācāra

śuniyā tad-anurūpa kariba vyavahāra

Śrī Rūpa Gosvāmī told the two men, “You are to return quickly and let me know when He will depart. Then I shall make the proper arrangements.”

ethā sanātana-gosāñi bhāve mane mana

rājā more prīti kare, se — mora bandhana

While Sanātana Gosvāmī was in Gauḍa-deśa, he was thinking, “The Nawab is very pleased with me. I certainly have an obligation.

 

kona mate rājā yadi more kruddha haya

tabe avyāhati haya, kariluṅ niścaya

 

“If the Nawab somehow or other becomes angry with me, I shall be greatly relieved. That is my conclusion.”

asvāsthyera chadma kari’ rahe nija-ghare

rāja-kārya chāḍilā, nā yāya rāja-dvāre

On the pretext of bad health, Sanātana Gosvāmī remained home. Thus, he gave up government service and did not go to the royal court.

 

lobhī kāyastha-gaṇa rāja-kārya kare

āpane svagṛhe kare śāstrera vicāre

The greedy masters of his clerical and secretarial staff performed the government duties while Sanātana personally remained home and discussed the revealed scriptures.

Purport:

Sanātana Gosvāmī was the minister in charge of the government secretariat, and his assistants — the undersecretaries and clerks — all belonged to the kāyastha community. Formerly the kāyasthas belonged to the clerical and secretarial staff of the government, and later if one served in such a post, he was called a kāyastha. Eventually if a person could not identify himself as a brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya or śūdra, he used to introduce himself as a kāyastha to get a wealthy and honorable position. In Bengal it is said that if one cannot give the identity of his caste, he calls himself a kāyastha. On the whole, the kāyastha community is a mixture of all castes, and it especially includes those engaged in clerical or secretarial work. Materially such people are always busy occupying responsible government posts.

When Sanātana Gosvāmī was relaxing and feeling inclined to retire from government service, many kāyasthas on his secretarial staff were very eager to occupy his post. In this regard, Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura states that when Sanātana Gosvāmī was a government minister and the kāyasthas who assisted him saw that he was reluctant to continue, they became very expert in their duties. Sanātana Gosvāmī was a brāhmaṇa belonging to the Sārasvata brāhmaṇa community. It is said that when he resigned, a subordinate named Purandara Khān, who was a kāyastha, occupied his post.

(jaya) śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu nityānanda

śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda

 

hare kṛṣṇa hare kṛṣṇa kṛṣṇa kṛṣṇa hare hare

hare rāma hare rāma rāma rāma hare hare

 

Any questions? Yes Narottam

Devotee: [Not Clear – 37:01:23]

His Holiness Jayapatākā Swami: In Brindavan they have a big temple but that's also Lord Caitanya said to build temples but the worship of Kṛṣṇa in Brindavan is different than the worship of say Lakṣmī Nārāyaṇa in South India.

In Brindavan the beautiful dresses and Ārati and kīrtan and I mean anartham he's being pūjārī you study the different types of worship I mean it's a totally different of course we worship in the mood of Lakṣmī Narayan taking ourselves to be not on that level as a vrajawasi or as a resident of Brindavan.

But their worship of deities didn't become any less in the mood of Brindavan by build putting them in a temple you see that depends upon the devotee they worship her and his attitude of surrender and dedication.

Just like Śrīla Prabhupāda in Vṛndāvan he wanted to establish the worship in our Kṛṣṇa Balarām temple and so he wanted not just to have the things done at a specific time and everything I mean that was always always there in every temple but remember the first thing he told the Poojari that he said that I don't want you to ever leave the temple I don't want you to go down to the marketplace I want you you know except for some emergency or some you know specific thing but basically I want you to like dedicate your life to the deities and devotee heard that it was on the next plane and flew back to America that's too much you see the point was that those Goswami's naturally you want to increase your devotional you know nice facility for Kṛṣṇa so if someone offers the temple they don't refuse that there they'll break glad to see Kṛṣṇa worship very nicely but there are total dedication and to worshiping the deity that wasn't in any way affected because they put the deity in a temple we shouldn't think that we have to worship Kṛṣṇa and under a tree we can't worship him in a temple the point is that they're worshipping Kṛṣṇa even if they don't have a temple normally we think how can I worship Kṛṣṇa if I don't have a car I don't have a temple I don't have this I don't have that maybe we have so many conditions to our store they don't have anything they're sitting under a tree that worshipping Kṛṣṇa does that mean if you offer them a temple and nice facilities to put Kṛṣṇa in that there will somehow affect or be a negative aspect of their in their devotional service no all right he likes it.

But the way that we do āratis or the way that the different poojas and ceremonies annakut, joolan these are all are vṛndāvan worship you see no one normally see Narayan and a joolan on but you see Rādhā Kṛṣṇa on joolan this Govardhan annakut the swing festival swing swing festival or Govardhan pūjā where you make the mountain of rice worshipping the gopāṣṭamī then rasalila and janmāṣṭamī festival and Rādhāṣṭamī festival and then in the spring the Balarāma's raasalila and so many festivals like that basanta pūjā these are all Brindavan oriented you see.

So Kṛṣṇa chaitanya wanted that there that worship would be Brindavan is described in the Tenth Canto as the nitya utsava it's a daily festival so if you have a temple is night it is easier to have a festival then if you're under a tree but they are even having their worship under even when they don't have a festival that's the remarkable thing without any facility we should have that type of dedication that you know even if it becomes the day after but we're going to go on with our devotional service you see we may be sitting in a your Kṛṣṇa forbid in any circumstance you see so we should be determined no matter what that we're going to do our devotional service but here's how much person says I want to build you build Kṛṣṇa a nice temple that doesn't matter that can pose that for there may still live under the tree but the temples for the Lord but because we are not at that same pure level that they talk to the deities deities talk to them.

Sometimes different things you see we don't artificially put ourselves on that level so we were very careful about all the rules and regulations because that's also the system given we shouldn't feel our self to be a very intimate usually just so confidential that we are officially do something whimsical but we should first of all thoroughly know what is the regulative principles of devotional service than if one is actually able to understand the Lord's you know in that level they could understand what the Lord wanted so Kṛṣṇa is same self and for a preaching purpose you see for oneself you can worship under a tree.

But Prabhupāda told us that in māyāpur that here sitting in the grass hut I said this grass hut with the bamboo leaves with what you call trusses and the roof and all the grass roofing little grass huts you know they have little mice crawling but they're not like rats or something they're quite friendly and few lizards are there and economics I mean you're quite close to nature when you're living in a couple of tons of grass there's all type of action going on there but it's pretty organic very nice wonderful vibration very simple you don't have it's very warm in the hall in the cold weather because it's good insulation and it's quite cool in the hot weather.

Sometimes if you're like in Delhi is a really hot place and they're in the concrete buildings even the walls you touch they become they're hot you turn a fan and it's like a blast furnace there's no protection this noise Albuquerque New Mexico places like that it's almost the same they have to pump in those air coolers to cool down the air but in the grass roof you see it doesn't get hot so the room taste stays cool relatively speaking.

So anyway, that's all-other things the Prabhupāda which is basically saying that here we're staying in this simple grass hut this is satwik this is in the mode of goodness this is ideal for worshipping Kṛṣṇa for chanting and worshipping Kṛṣṇa.

That time we had a little Rādhā Mādhav, Rādhā Mādhav deity and we worshipped in the grass hut then we got another little better temple and now we moved to the present temple now we're building another temple for the Lord ships because of they take another 10 years for the big temple to be completed so we don't want them just to stray in the ground floor so many years so Viṣṇu power and some devotees they got some donations together in there building another temple now for Rādhā Mādhav which should be ready before 1986 along with the samādhi the foundations are already up above ground level another guesthouse is also being constructed by donations from Australia and from some devotees in Calcutta and some different zones are buying rooms so that when they go to Māyāpur they'll have their own rooms to stay but getting off the point Oh Prabhupāda saying that this is satwik this is in the mode of goodness this grass hut and then he pointed over that time we are constructing the present temple.

And he said that construction is in the mode of passion if you ever seen the modern concrete can stay have to have vibrated you know it's the whole passionate thing it's steel and stone and concrete hammering and smashing and all type of vibrations and everything so it's a very passionate song it's very dangerous easily you can fall off in fact even the Vedas they called it raj mystery they called it the art the craftsman for the Kings because only Kings would build such big palaces and forts and things like that.

When he said that so for our devotional own personal we don't need such a big opulent facility we can sit in a grass hut by the side of the Ganges Jāmuna and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa that's all we need but who will come will come to see Kṛṣṇa you see for preaching we need to have a nice facility if you have a nice temple room you know well painted nicely decorated the deities already opulently presented naturally for the conditionality curries and for a neophyte people new people are coming it's much more attractive they are not at that level that they can experience Kṛṣṇa without the visual and other environments you see when you're on a very elevated platform of Kṛṣṇa consciousness that you just through the philosophy through your own devotional service you can feel the presence of Kṛṣṇa constantly.

But for the people of the material world, they need some more backup they need the visual they need all their senses to be absorbed in Kṛṣṇa they can't just by chanting alone at that initial state they're not able to totally fix their mind they have so many other supports are needed well for preaching therefore we have you said for preaching we're building this up and it works beginning now thousands and thousands of people coming to see the deities.

So then Prabhupāda say that you should use these facilities for preaching don't think that the facilities are for your comfort you should use the facilities for a serving Kṛṣṇa therefore traditionally those devotees who are living in society they keep one standard because just as the Rūpa and Sanātana naturally they as a minister they have a certain position in society to do their ministerial duties if they come into the courtroom of the King you know wearing (In audible: 49.18) or something like that you know I probably wouldn't you know be the right impression I mean they prepared to go I'm sure they went in all ceremony you know as a minister they they kept their air they had their facilities otherwise all these materialistic greedy people working under them you know they're not the so philosophical that they see

If someone come in with certain power with a certain stature they're going to take notice of that similarly if someone's a business person why do you have to wear a suit and tie after in the West you have to have a certain bearing otherwise people don't they think you're your bum or something they don't just don't can't relate with you so according to each occupation you see they may have a certain way they carry but traditionally those who are living in the temple communities they live very simply as brāhmaṇas their duties amorous brāhmaṇas serving the deity preaching and so on so they accept voluntarily so austerity and people can accept that they don't expect see people living in a religious community to be really opulent but that doesn't mean that we don't make Kṛṣṇa's worship very opulent he can be really really opulent because he's the Lord.

So, we give him big helmets and Thrones and jewelry and everything like that we offer Him opulent prasādam if He leaves any other plate we also take yes according to the bhakti-ratnākara śrī caitanya das the father of srinivas ācārya once accompany his guru who is I believe Yadav Ācārya, yadunandan Ācārya one of those exalted Vaiṣṇavas associates of later to become associates of Lord Chaitanya or the Guru or some of Lord Chaitanya's associates.

He happened to go and, in the bhakti, -ratnakara reveals a secret that how is it possible when we have this ferocious Mohammedan ruler the hussain sometime would even go on a recent breakdown the Hindu temples how is it that Navadwip was the center of Vedic culture for the entire India.

At that time it's like a kind of a mystery under the patronage or under the Empire of Mohammed Emperor of course the local king was Hindu king but the Empire was under the Hussein Shah and he was absolute Emperor ghodeshwar how is it possible that in the whole in the event even from South India they are coming from Kashmir they are coming everywhere they're coming to Navadvīpa that time it was the seed you see for Vedic studies at that time sanskrit studies this is the secret was that group in Sanātana they were giving profuse profuse donations to all of the brāhmaṇas.

They said that practically it was like ants going to the shore bees going you know to the to the flower to the honey pot is that a string of ravenous always going up to sing in Rūpa and Sanātana and would regularly in their court they would have Bhāgavatam time being read and barometers would come up and they'd be giving donation as a regular daily morning practice before they go to the Kings to the Emperor's Palace and do their court duties because and that is accounted historically in the bhakti-ratnākara because he described to Srinivas how he was asking tell me about Rūpa and Sanātana and do you know them have we met them and he said well I went with my guru one time and he went there and they gave a big donation to him for and he described all these things how they were Bhāgavatam lectures were going on different brāhmaṇas or chanting mantras and so they'd have their like morning Bhāgavatam class we give a donation and then they go we don't find that you know that was history that we only get from the only place.

I found that was the bhakti ratnakar gone give the inner what was going on before but they said has like the actual secret of how Navadwip was being supported by their generosity this is brief this was yeah this was before Lord Chaitanya figured into their Lord Chaitanya came much later, He after He took sanyas then yes, He went down to Purī on His way to Brindavan.

He went up so that means 24 years of His life was in Nabadwip then He went to purī then He went to South India right then after His coming back from South then He went to Jagannath to Brindavan isn't that or did He first go to Vrindavan I think first He went to South India then He went to Brindavan so you can say in the latter part as I have to study it's because it does not told exactly always the chronology.

 

 

 

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